So whats the deal....Any comments

macmini · « **on:** 30 Aug 2010, 04:23 am »

I am a owner of vr-4.5 and cam across an old review on six moons that essentially bashes VSA for about 6 pages. Any comments on the article?
http://www.6moons.com/industryfeatures/speakerphysics/speakerphysics.html
http://www.6moons.com/industryfeatures/speakerphysics/speakerphysics2.html

es347 · « **Reply #1 on:** 30 Aug 2010, 01:16 pm »

Thanks for the scoop mini. How do you like the sound of your 4.5s? Not satisfied? I see you are first time poster anywhere on Audio Circle. Could you tell us a little more about yourself?

jab · « **Reply #2 on:** 30 Aug 2010, 01:25 pm »

yeah, i've got a questions macmini,, whats your purpose and motivation of dredging up a 7 yr old comment piece bashing VSA? Frankly,, who cares what 6moons had to say 7yrs ago or in the hear and now for that matter.. Jack

es347 · « **Reply #3 on:** 30 Aug 2010, 02:16 pm »

Hey there Jack. Quite a coincidence a first time AC poster shows up with this revelatory post. I ain't buying it

stewie · « **Reply #4 on:** 30 Aug 2010, 02:30 pm »

The real problem with the 6 moons review is its weird, and seemingly motivated selectivity: the vast majority of the product reviews and manufacturer descriptions are designed to move merchandise into the homes of men who have some disposable cash and a passion for music and audio gear. Albert seems restrained by comparison. In any case, if women rather than men were the consumers of audio equipment, I guarantee we'd be hearing about follicle stimulating loudspeakers, and about preamps that don't make your ass look big.

scp2 · « **Reply #5 on:** 30 Aug 2010, 02:40 pm »

It basically boils down to product reviewers are used to being smoozed and coddled by product manufacturers and when that doesn't happen it hurts their feelings and chances of a good review lessen. After skimming this review it appears that is what happened.

es347 · « **Reply #6 on:** 30 Aug 2010, 03:05 pm »

..fol(l)icle stimulating loudspeakers...that don't make your ass look big. .alas, a quality not intrinsic to my VR5 Anniversaries.

stewie · « **Reply #7 on:** 30 Aug 2010, 04:06 pm »

Quote from: es347 on 30 Aug 2010, 03:05 pm

..fol(l)icle stimulating loudspeakers...that don't make your ass look big. .alas, a quality not intrinsic to my VR5 Anniversaries.

If only my VR4 genIIIs could manage some follicle stimulation! Albert?

kgturner · « **Reply #8 on:** 30 Aug 2010, 04:27 pm »

I love my VSA dB99 speakers. Other's may not. Doesn't bother me. I have no interest in reading pages of reviews because in the end it's somebody else's experiences and opinions. I'll trust my own experience and opinion when it comes to VSA.

Kevin T

es347 · « **Reply #9 on:** 30 Aug 2010, 04:53 pm »

I don't know of a single mfr. that doesn't play some version of dungeons and dragons in their product literature. I also don't care how Albert got to where he did on the VR5 annies...through rigorous science or serendipity...they are outstanding speakers, period. So there!

macmini · « **Reply #10 on:** 31 Aug 2010, 04:12 am »

A little bit about me. I love my speakers!!! I actually got rid of my vandersteen 3a signs for these speakers. And I pretty much agree with the comments made so far. Who care if there is some unscientific information as long as they sound good that is all that matters. I just wanted to get an idea of what others thought since I personally care alot about evidence and science. I'll post pics of my speakers tommorow!

JackD201 · « **Reply #11 on:** 31 Aug 2010, 04:53 am »

I find it funny. Seriously. Look at what 7 years can bring. In the last three years the "darling" speakers have moved to or are using asymmetrical crossovers. Something we VSA guys have been enjoying from day one. Looks like the author got hung up on 1st order dogma.

Someone hand him his hat or his foot to chew on.

The bad part about this is the competition has been getting closer

But not yet!

economides · « **Reply #12 on:** 31 Aug 2010, 12:17 pm »

The curious thing about this article is how aggressive it is towards VSA....

Another peculiar thing is that Srajan was present in last year's High End Show in Athens Greece and in his review in 6 moons what he named as the 6 best systems (in his opinion) were amongst the worst of the show according to the opinion of the members of the major Greek audio forums !!!

es347 · « **Reply #13 on:** 31 Aug 2010, 01:38 pm »

Not sure just how reputable a guy he is.

bentknee · « **Reply #14 on:** 31 Aug 2010, 06:59 pm »

Albert told me about this article some time ago. A couple of things he said were that there was a retraction printed later and that the guy that wrote it was the former sales manager for Meadowlark speakers. Anything we read needs to taken with a grain of salt.

Macmini welcome to the forum

. Albert loves talking about the science of speaker design, If that is your interest also you might enjoy a conversation with him.

Blessings, Bob

mfsoa · « **Reply #15 on:** 31 Aug 2010, 07:04 pm »

I noticed that there was no author mentioned in these articles, which I thought was really strange.

Funny, though, after reading it my speakers sound just the same as before

At least now I know not to own any gear where the mfgr gets a little "loose" with the acronyms and hype. Therefore, all of my gear is now up for sale

-Mike

turkey · « **Reply #16 on:** 31 Aug 2010, 07:21 pm »

That review points out exactly the type of thing that has always bothered me about Von Schweikert.

es347 · « **Reply #17 on:** 31 Aug 2010, 07:35 pm »

Get out the basting brush....he's b-a-a-a-a-a-ck. Please go away my feathered friend.

jab · « **Reply #18 on:** 31 Aug 2010, 11:26 pm »

to funny! Must be a Wilson or Magico dealer..

es347 · « **Reply #19 on:** 31 Aug 2010, 11:58 pm »

I didn't expect this guy to resurface until the holidays. Must be the economy