From The desk of Cowboy Junkies

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Re: From The desk of Cowboy Junkies
« Reply #1 on: 26 Aug 2010, 01:32 pm »
Can't ask for a nicer mention than that James!

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« Reply #2 on: 26 Aug 2010, 01:55 pm »
James,

Thanks for the URL. I'm very fond of their Trinity Session. Below is the comment that I posted.

I've been using the BCD-1 for about 2 1/2 years. I've yet to hear another player that can get the full instrument sound as the BCD does. Others, even a Weiss DAC2, purify the sound - emphasizing the basic sound of a note but suppressing the 'timbre' of the instrument. In contrast the BCD presents the whole sound of the instrument - just as you would hear if were playing next to you. Others may sound clearer but after listening to them for a while, I get annoyed with their polish and lack of reality. Three cheers for the Bryston BCD-1.

ps: I hear that feeding the digital output from the BCD -1into the Bryston BDA-1 can give even better results but I haven't been able to check that out as yet.

Best Regards, 
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« Reply #3 on: 27 Aug 2010, 12:05 am »
Congrats James.

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« Reply #4 on: 27 Aug 2010, 02:10 am »

ps: I hear that feeding the digital output from the BCD -1into the Bryston BDA-1 can give even better results but I haven't been able to check that out as yet.



too bad the BCD-1 doesn't come with dual CS4398s, defeatable upsampling (AND variable outs :wink:) as it would seem pretty cost "ineffective" to spend $2700 on a BCD and relegate it to use as a transport when the dig out from a Cambridge 550C (with custom transport/servo) costs only $600.  Sorry if I'm skeptical, but even given Bryston's superior engineering I just don't see the extra $2100 offering elevated dig out performance comensurate with the price differential.


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« Reply #5 on: 27 Aug 2010, 02:42 am »

too bad the BCD-1 doesn't come with dual CS4398s, defeatable upsampling (AND variable outs :wink:) as it would seem pretty cost "ineffective" to spend $2700 on a BCD and relegate it to use as a transport when the dig out from a Cambridge 550C (with custom transport/servo) costs only $600.  Sorry if I'm skeptical, but even given Bryston's superior engineering I just don't see the extra $2100 offering elevated dig out performance comensurate with the price differential.

I agree but some people like overkill.  I did sell my BCD-1 and bought a lightly used BDA-1 and did not have them at the same time.  I have no idea as to how the BCD-1 would sound as a transport vs. other things I have.  I has so many things laying around, I could not see keeping it to try it.  I have things that I've used with a another DAC so I know they are good transports.  The BDA-1 is not as sensitve to transports as my other older DAC I have in the secondary basement system.  Besides, my bedroom system (and feeds remote locations via a speaker switcher) backs to the main system (and I did run things so I could if needed connect to the basement system too) and the ability to hook multiple sources and utilize them in two systems .

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« Reply #6 on: 27 Aug 2010, 02:57 am »
I agree but some people like overkill.  I did sell my BCD-1 and bought a lightly used BDA-1 and did not have them at the same time.  I have no idea as to how the BCD-1 would sound as a transport vs. other things I have.  I has so many things laying around, I could not see keeping it to try it.  I have things that I've used with a another DAC so I know they are good transports.  The BDA-1 is not as sensitve to transports as my other older DAC I have in the secondary basement system.  Besides, my bedroom system (and feeds remote locations via a speaker switcher) backs to the main system (and I did run things so I could if needed connect to the basement system too) and the ability to hook multiple sources and utilize them in two systems .

I'd seriously consider paying up to $3500 for a BCD-2 as long as it included variable outs  :thumb:

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Re: From The desk of Cowboy Junkies
« Reply #7 on: 27 Aug 2010, 03:22 am »
I'd seriously consider paying up to $3500 for a BCD-2 as long as it included variable outs  :thumb:

I actually prefer a DAC.  I bought the BCD-1 when it first came out and there was no DAC.  I prefer a DAC for various reasons including the ability to handle higher resolution audio and multiple sources.  Also, no drive to deal with down the road and whether or not you can even get one to use.  My old DAC in the basement I got used for very little, even though it was $2.5k list in its day and they still sell for $500-600 which is about 3 times the value off the stuff I traded for it probably 6 years back.  It is probably 16 years old?  Will just do 48kHz but still sounds great.  I don't think I'd buy another CD player personally

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« Reply #8 on: 27 Aug 2010, 09:51 am »
I agree with you, Phil.  DACs are do much more flexible than CDPs.  You can bring most or all of the greatness of a CDP to a lot more sources.  In this day and age, I think it's stupid not to set up a music server.  I know some people's apprehension with them, but most of it just isn't true or is just absurd.

DACs don't have moving parts like transports do, making them theoretically longer lasting.  What happens when the laser in a CDP is no longer in production?   That high priced CDP becomes an expensive paper weight.  Less and less companies are making CD transports.   These relatively very small hifi companies can't possibly produce them for anywhere near a reasonable price.  They'd have to make them by the 10,000's to break even.  Do you think Bryston will honestly sell 30,000 BCD1s, let alone that many before turning a profit?   It makes sense for companies like Sony.  For even the biggest hifi company, it could bankrupt them.   According to my dealer, Linn tried it and failed miserably.   One of the countless reasons they stopped making CDPs. 

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Re: From The desk of Cowboy Junkies
« Reply #9 on: 27 Aug 2010, 10:45 am »
http://www.magnetmagazine.com/2010/08/25/from-the-desk-of-cowboy-junkies-bryston-bcd-1-cd-player/

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Don't you just love this kind of stuff when it comes out of unexpected places  8)

Now, I own about 16 guitars and 13 amps (my playing is horrible, though  :o)...do I qualify for this "Artist' discount  :wink: :lol: :lol: :wink:

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« Reply #10 on: 27 Aug 2010, 12:31 pm »
James, the art I've done is hanging on the fridge with a magnet.  Do I qualify for the artist discount? :green:

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« Reply #11 on: 27 Aug 2010, 12:43 pm »
James, the art I've done is hanging on the fridge with a magnet.  Do I qualify for the artist discount? :green:

No sorry Phil - you have to produce a record that sells a million copies to qualify.

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« Reply #12 on: 27 Aug 2010, 07:01 pm »

too bad the BCD-1 doesn't come with dual CS4398s, defeatable upsampling (AND variable outs :wink:) as it would seem pretty cost "ineffective" to spend $2700 on a BCD and relegate it to use as a transport when the dig out from a Cambridge 550C (with custom transport/servo) costs only $600.  Sorry if I'm skeptical, but even given Bryston's superior engineering I just don't see the extra $2100 offering elevated dig out performance comensurate with the price differential.



Cambridge is crap made in China. Get off your high horse.

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Re: From The desk of Cowboy Junkies
« Reply #13 on: 27 Aug 2010, 08:43 pm »
Just curious, where is the transport made for the BCD-1  :scratch:

Be well...

Phil A

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« Reply #14 on: 28 Aug 2010, 01:04 am »
Just curious, where is the transport made for the BCD-1  :scratch:

Be well...

I am not sure but I believe James said it was a Philips transport.  I'd have to guess it was the Far East.

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Re: From The desk of Cowboy Junkies
« Reply #15 on: 28 Aug 2010, 01:13 am »
Cool link.  You know, the funny thing is that most of the major artists out there run either Bose, or even NO stereo in their personal home(s).  It's nice to see one more person rediscover their own music collection again with the help of good gear.   :thumb:

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Re: From The desk of Cowboy Junkies
« Reply #16 on: 28 Aug 2010, 01:15 am »
Just curious, where is the transport made for the BCD-1  :scratch:

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Hi Laundrew,

Phillips.

james

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Re: From The desk of Cowboy Junkies
« Reply #17 on: 28 Aug 2010, 02:32 am »
Cool link.  You know, the funny thing is that most of the major artists out there run either Bose, or even NO stereo in their personal home(s).  It's nice to see one more person rediscover their own music collection again with the help of good gear.   :thumb:

Ever watch MTV Cribs?  Haven't seen a real hifi system in any musician's home (or anyone else's for that matter).  Seen some Bose, Sony, and stuff like that.  One had a pair of the White Van speakers my father gave me about 15 years ago!  She even said she loves to hear and feel the music.  I laughed pretty hard.  Xzibit (is that how he spells it?) had some crap Sony speakers that he was bumping too.

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Re: From The desk of Cowboy Junkies
« Reply #18 on: 28 Aug 2010, 11:05 pm »
I am not sure but I believe James said it was a Philips transport.  I'd have to guess it was the Far East.

Hi Laundrew,

Phillips.

james

Thanks Phil and James  :thumb:

Be well....

Zero

Re: From The desk of Cowboy Junkies
« Reply #19 on: 29 Aug 2010, 12:12 am »
Stu,

Yep yep! I forgot who it was, but there was a basketball player who ran all McIntosh gear in his theater. That was pretty cool. :D