[citro]

Hi guys,

My source is an Oppo BDP-83 NuForce Edition, and it is hooked up to the AVP-17. My speakers are Monitor Audio RS8's. My question is... I always use it in the ByPass mode, but, that way, I can't seem to adjust treble nor bass, as it suggests here, in mine what appears is N/A:

AUDIO SETUP

Tone Controls
Push the FUNCTION knob in to go to the main MENU, then rotate the knob to Audio Setup. Push the knob in again to enter the ADJ Treble mode. Pushing the knob once more will display Treble 00.
Rotating the knob will increase or decrease the Treble +/- 10dB in 2dB steps. Once set, pushing the knob returns to the ADJ Treble position. Rotating the knob clockwise will bring you to the Adj Bass mode. Pushing the knob in will display Bass 00. and bass may be increased +/- 10dB by rotating the Function knob (clockwise for more bass or counter-clockwise for less bass). Note that all functions are similarly accessed and adjusted by using the FUNCTION knob. Since most users will be using the remote control to access the MENU and set parameters, the AVP-17’s features and settings via remote control are described below.

Also, the AVP-17 doesn't seem to know I only have hooked up two speakers, as it allows me, in ByPass mode, to adjust Center, Sub-woofer and Surround Speakers... what am I missing, guys?

Thanks in adavance for all your help.

Citro

[John Casler]

"By-Pass" is exactly to by-pass the Tone Controls, meaning the signal will not flow through them.

[citro]

Thanks, John.

If the By-pass is the only way to play stereo in it, then I guess I'll never be able to access those controls.

Let's see if anyone has any other suggestion.

Regards,
Citro

[John Casler]

The AVP-17 in "by-pass" is more similar to the better 2 channel preamps.

Few have tone controls.

Tone controls and equalization are generally the domain of older or lesser expensive preamps and AV preamps and receivers.

It is a matter of signal integrity/purity.

You likely could run the prepro in 3 channel mode and set the center to "none" which would give you a stereo downmix and I think the use of your tone controls.

[citro]

I hear you, John, and thanks once again... my old pre was a VTL 2.5 and also had no tone control whatsoever, thing is that now with the AVP-17 I gained a lot of bass, and if I could reduce it for just a sip, it would be great. I will try your suggestion and then let you know.

All the best,
Citro

[srb]

If the bass is now overloading the room a bit, you could try moving the speakers a little more out into the room (if possible).  You could also try inserting the foam port bungs into the front ports.
 
Steve

[citro]

Thanks, srb.

My room is too small, so I can't put the speakers further off each other. The foam ports are also in already

I've managed to sort things out, though... Still in Bypass mode, I've put all the remaining channels to "00" and put the sub-woofer one to "-08". This way, the sound is perfect, thanks for the tips, guys

Just one noob question, now... I've bought the Oppo NuForce edition precisely because of the Converter it has... now, as it is connected to the AVP-17, it is the AVP-17 converter that will "be playing", is it not? My question is, if it is the AVP-17 converter that is playing, then, the Oppo NuForce edition became a waste of money and will play as good as the standard version, right?

Or is my thought only valid if I connect the Oppo to the AVP-17 through Optical Digital?

Thanks again in advance, guys.
Citro

[srb]

The main upgrades to the Oppo are the internal DACs, analog output stages and power supply.  To realize this sound upgrade, you would connect it's analog 5.1 or 7.1 outputs to the AVP-17 with 6 or 8 RCA cables into the analog multi-inputs on the AVP-17 that should bypass any internal processing in the AVP-17.  You would then be using settings in the Oppo for bass management and speaker levels.
 
If you connect the Oppo to the AVP-17 with S/PDIF optical or coaxial, you would be bypassing the ESS Sabre DACs and analog output stages of the Oppo, and would be using the AVP-17's internal DACs for digital to analog conversion.
 
Although the power supply upgrades in the Oppo NuForce Edition might make the digital output slightly better than without them, the Oppo SE and NuForce Edition upgrades are primarily for those who will use the analog outputs.
 
Steve

[John Casler]

Steve is correct, and I might suggest a couple other hints:

Connect the OPPOse NE's TWO CHANNEL ANALOG OUTPUTS to the AVP17's CD inputs and set the CD input to ANALOG.

That will give you the best 2 channel purity for music.

Then Connect the OPPOse NE's 7.1 CHANNEL ANALOG OUTPUTS to the AVP17's 7.1 ANALOG inputs and use the 7.1 inputs for your HT.

That way, when you are playing a CD in the OPPOseNE, you will use the CD input and take advantage of the ESS chip.

When you are screening a film, you use 7.1 for the same advantage.

You can also still run an optical or coax from the OPPOseNE if might ever need the DSP modes of the AVP17.

[citro]

You guys are both right... I had it all hooked up correctly, then. I only have two speakers, so, I'll keep those RCAs hooked up through the AVP-17 CD input.

The other sources are connected via SPDIF as their converters are worse than the AVP-17.

The RCA's I use to connect the Oppo to the AVP-17 are some QED Audio S Signature ones... I also use them to connect the Power (Vincent SP-331) to the Pre (AVP-17). I had some Vincent cables, but I believe the QED ones are superior... just don't know if they're worth it to connect a Power to a Pre.

I promise I won't make any more silly questions.

Thanks a lot, John and Steve.