[navi]

I haven't seen that movie but I know that inception is what can happen if you don't use a condone.

yeah it's a porno.


saw it tonight. 4.5 out of 5 for me- i think the music was good but drew too much attention to its self. i like the editing in it. the films plays out like a dream.

[wushuliu]

yeah it's a porno.


saw it tonight. 4.5 out of 5 for me- i think the music was good but drew too much attention to its self. i like the editing in it. the films plays out like a dream.

funny you should say that - turns out the film's main theme is actually the opening of the edith piaf song slowed way, way down. Pretty cool!

[wushuliu]

There was a high stakes goal.  I know they just brushed by it and played a different angle much, much more.  But much of the movie took place in Leo's mind and dreams so the focus was rather singular.  As with the movie's plot, I think the movie itself can be thought through on 2 or 3 different levels.

This was what I liked the most about the film: it is completely a heist film and plays out that genre fully, down to Leo saying he just needs one "last score". I think it's an amazing action film first, mind-job second.

[Letitroll98]

I haven't seen that movie but I know that inception is what can happen if you don't use a condone.

I don't condone that viewpoint at all.....

Anyway, going to see it tonight, will comment when I get home.  If the movie and dinner are both very good, I may need a condone and won't reply until tomorrow.

[PhilNYC]

This was what I liked the most about the film: it is completely a heist film and plays out that genre fully, down to Leo saying he just needs one "last score". I think it's an amazing action film first, mind-job second.

But here's another issue I have with it...Leo is supposed to be one of the top guys in the world at doing what he does...but it kind of seemed like he was flying by the seat of his pants trying to get the job done, like he hadn't anticipated any of the issues that came up (like the simple fact that the guy had "dream defense training")...   I had the same issue with that movie "Inside Man" (Spike Lee's heist movie with Denzel and Clive Owen)...the movie was pitched as "the most brilliant bank heist ever", but it didn't come across as particularly brilliant at all...

[wushuliu]

That's part of the genre right or wrong.  The main person is the best but their abilities have become compromised because of a personal issue or event.  They end up taking risks and make mistakes in judgment. In this case his wife is what's compromising his abilities. Ariadne points this out to him and is aware howflawed The plan really is.

[PhilNYC]

That's part of the genre right or wrong.  The main person is the best but their abilities have become compromised because of a personal issue or event.  They end up taking risks and make mistakes in judgment. In this case his wife is what's compromising his abilities. Ariadne points this out to him and is aware howflawed The plan really is.

Yeah, but it wasn't his wife that made him completely overlook the fact that the target had had dream-defense training...or if it was, that wasn't a very believable explanation...

[nonoise]

I saw the movie just two days ago and thought that letting it set would make it easier to write this but compared to Insomnia, Memento, and even The Dark Knight, it didn't hold up as well. The sequence in the snow capped mountains was way too long and could have been tidied up a bit. The acting was first rate and the premise (heist movie + dream weaving) was quite imaginative but as a whole, I really don't know. Nothing surprised me. I really hope that Christopher Nolan doesn't go the way of M. Night Shyamalan.
I might feel different when I see it again when its out on DVD.

[wushuliu]

Nothing surprised me. I really hope that Christopher Nolan doesn't go the way of M. Night Shyamalan.

I agree, but I'm not sure anything in the film was supposed to surprise you. In that sense it is also similar to Shutter Island. There's no twist or surprise in mind per se. Just the catharsis followed by both characters making a choice. Which is actually stated by Leo in the film itself.  Interesting to note that the end choices by made by both characters are opposing despite similar circumstances - don't want to say more and spoil either film.

I think Inception was so overhyped, some people are disappointed it isn't more clever. To which I say thank god. Not a fan of clever. I did not expect it to be so linear. But it's linear within linear, narratives within narratives. Nolan has more or less said that it's his version of a Bond film, and I think that is the best way to look at it.

And Nolan would have to fall a long, long, way to bottom out like Night, who pretty much went steadily downhill after 6th sense and who throws narrative under the bus for a jack in the box ending.

[wushuliu]

Yeah, but it wasn't his wife that made him completely overlook the fact that the target had had dream-defense training...or if it was, that wasn't a very believable explanation...

Not that this is important at all, but Leo not being on his game and being unprepared was setup from the beginning with the extraction that went wrong with the whole rug thing and his wife popping up, etc. punctuated by him later saying "he had it under control" (lie) and Arthur saying "I'd hate to see you out of control".  And the extraction defense guys popped up right when the 'train' showed up, linking them as him not really being in control and jeapardizing the team. So he was dreaming by the seat of his pants throughout the film yes.

I think.

[PhilNYC]

Not that this is important at all, but Leo not being on his game and being unprepared was setup from the beginning with the extraction that went wrong with the whole rug thing and his wife popping up, etc. punctuated by him later saying "he had it under control" (lie) and Arthur saying "I'd hate to see you out of control".  And the extraction defense guys popped up right when the 'train' showed up, linking them as him not really being in control and jeapardizing the team. So he was dreaming by the seat of his pants throughout the film yes.

I think.

I understand it...just didn't think it was portrayed very convincingly.

[PhilNYC]

And Nolan would have to fall a long, long, way to bottom out like Night, who pretty much went steadily downhill after 6th sense and who throws narrative under the bus for a jack in the box ending.

This is unfortunately so true.  M. Night was a 1-trick pony, and even the masses have figured that out.  During the previews at the Inception screening I went to, there was a preview for a movie that was looking somewhat interesting...and then it says "From the mind of Producer M. Night Shyamalan", and the audience literally groaned out loud.  (The preview was for a movie called "Devil", I think...takes place mostly in an elevator)...

[wushuliu]

This is unfortunately so true.  M. Night was a 1-trick pony, and even the masses have figured that out.  During the previews at the Inception screening I went to, there was a preview for a movie that was looking somewhat interesting...and then it says "From the mind of Producer M. Night Shyamalan", and the audience literally groaned out loud.  (The preview was for a movie called "Devil", I think...takes place mostly in an elevator)...

Yeah, we saw that trailer. I can't believe he has the stones to use the phrase From the 'Mind' of M Night... cause I can think of some other places where he pulled that idea from...

[Construct]

I have lost all faith in M Knight Shamwow.  His "Airbender"  is a contender for worst movie of the year.  Come to think of it, most of his movies are.

[Kinger]

Went to see this film today and thought it was great.  Well worth the $5 matinee price.

[wushuliu]

Went to see this film today and thought it was great.  Well worth the $5 matinee price.

$5?

where do you live, in 1985?

[Construct]

$5?

where do you live, in 1985?

I have only seen that price at a matinee in the second-run cinemas.  Our "bargain"  matinee is $7.00.  *IF*  they have a movie before 12:00 noon, it's $5.50.

[Kinger]

Columbus, OH.  First run movie before noon.

[jqp]

Well I finally watched Inception...and I really enjoyed it.

I did not realize it was a "heist movie" except perhaps subcosciously, until reading some reviews, these included, today after watching it last night.

I was not aware, but was happy to find out that this was a Christopher Nolan film, because I am a big fan of Memento.

My preconceived notion was that this film was based on the writings of Philip K Dick. Films such as Blade Runner, Minority Report, Total Recall, The Adjustment Bureau, all films dealing with concepts of identity, consciousness, dreams, reality and alternate states.

Christopher Nolan says that he worked on the treatment for this film for 10 years before beginning production. He is definitely thourougly educated in these philosophical thoughts and all the books and movies they have generated in the last several decades.

What impressed me most about this movie given the mostly preexisting universe of these ideas, was the cinematography and productin of the film, and the ambitiousness of the plot itself, the way dreams are involved in the plot in such a complex way, the way that so many possible flaws in this type of movie are creatively avoided. I feel that this movie actually lived up to the high standards of Momento.

One thing that really jumped out to me was how Marion Cotillard was such a delicious female villain. And she was a villain from the very beginning to the end, a cross to bear for Cobb, a nightmare scenario in the world of uncertain identity and reality. You know she could, as a successful actress, remove that little wart on her forehead, but she uses it to make herself a better villain!

I too noticed how long the fortress scene was, but I think it is long in order to let us feel how long this dream level lasts pretty long but almost not long enough. I felt that the Limbo scenario that they were all in danger of was made more dreadful by this sequence. A lot of the movie is made by the feeling of lucid dreaming which in my opinion requires a sense of effort and creativity, as when Arthur had to gather all the floating dreamers in zero-gravity and move them and prepare them for a carefully timed event.

I did wish that Ellen Page's character as a genius architect was fleshed out a bit more. I couldn't help but notice that  that Ellen Page is a tiny little person!

A very fun movie, if you are into these themes. Worthy of being influenced by Phillip K Dick.