Allan Holdsworth recommendation...

eclein · « **on:** 14 Jun 2010, 08:46 pm »

I have his best of :"Against The Clock" what other albums are hot...I love fusion, I have budget for one-got a half.co refund..

drphoto · « **Reply #1 on:** 15 Jun 2010, 04:02 am »

You might want to check out a band called UK from the 80's in which Holdsworth played. More prog than fusion. Very good stuff.

I got to see them in a fairly small theater here in Louisville. By the time they came here Bill Bruford had already left, replaced by some loser named Terry Bozio!! Yeah.....it was fun. (since you were/are a drummer.....I don't think I need to comment....on either guy)

BTW: you totally suck telling us how you snagged those JBL'S FOR $50!!.

Yep, UK would sound really good on vintage JBL's....it's too damn bad I don't have any.

JakeJ · « **Reply #2 on:** 15 Jun 2010, 05:12 am »

I recently snagged this -

Outstanding if you can find a copy. The recommendation of UK is a good one too. You both might be interested in this -

Sorry for the lousy thumnail. It's called "If Summer Had Its Ghosts" with Eddie Gomez, Bill Bruford, and Ralph Towner. Good jazz plus the second disc has a radio interview with Bill that chronicles what went on with UK including some complete tracks. Bill relates how he was sacked from UK and it seems it was done quite behind his back. Great story with some great music to boot.
Jake

lonewolfny42 · « **Reply #3 on:** 15 Jun 2010, 07:00 am »

+1 on the U.K. suggestion.... Samples...

You might also check out a new release....Blues For Tony... (Tony Williams tribute)

I like this live one....All Night Wrong...

eclein · « **Reply #4 on:** 15 Jun 2010, 11:31 am »

Quote from: drphoto on 15 Jun 2010, 04:02 am

BTW: you totally suck telling us how you snagged those JBL'S FOR $50!!.

Yep, UK would sound really good on vintage JBL's....it's too damn bad I don't have any.

The greatest treasure I have ever found in my life..."JBL marks the spot"

UK on the way!!! Thanks guys!!!
"If Summer Had Its Ghosts" on its way also--got to hear Bruford with Ralph Towner, outta be unique!!!

BobM · « **Reply #5 on:** 15 Jun 2010, 12:53 pm »

The best Holdsworth albums are when he guests for others.

The first "UK" disk was mentioned. It is a classic and probably the best work Eddie Jobson has done also. Bruford is on that one also and pulled Holdsworth into his "One of a Kind" and "Feels Good to Me" albums, which are great.

Jean Luc Ponty's "Enigmatic Ocean" album is also considered a Holdsworth classic.

Soft Machine's "Bundles" is worth checking out.

Tony Williams "Believe It" is another older one with a young Holdsworth strutting his stuff.

Gong's "Expresso II" is not well known but a definite buy it on sight if you see it album. Great sound on this one to boot.

As far as his solo albums go, I think "IOU", "Metal Fatigue" and "Atavachron" may be his classics, but he is definitely not known as a good songwriter.

Enjoy,
Bob

mfsoa · « **Reply #6 on:** 15 Jun 2010, 03:36 pm »

Since you are asking about Holdsworth, and are a drummer yourself, you must check out (if you don't have already): One of a Kind:

http://www.amazon.com/One-Kind-Bill-Bruford/dp/B000003S15/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1276615959&sr=8-2

-Mike

eclein · « **Reply #7 on:** 15 Jun 2010, 04:16 pm »

Mike-great suggestion Thank you!!
So my refund for $5 turned into:
1) UK
2) One Of A Kind
3) If Summer Had Its Ghosts
4) David Gilmour-"On An Island"CD & DVD combo-found it at CVS for $7 while buying razorblades,
All you guys always give me great ideas..

jimdgoulding · « **Reply #8 on:** 15 Jun 2010, 04:38 pm »

http://www.amazon.com/Feels-Good-Me-Bill-Bruford/dp/B000003S11/ref=pd_sim_m_4

Bill Bruford's Feels Good To Me

Rick Craig · « **Reply #9 on:** 15 Jun 2010, 04:42 pm »

Gong's "Expresso", the discs with Bill Bruford, and my favorite is with Tony Williams "Believe It".

Wayne1 · « **Reply #10 on:** 15 Jun 2010, 06:09 pm »

Another recommendation for Gong.

Gazuese was released in the US under the name Expresso. I used this for demos going back to the late 70's.

Expresso II also features Holdsworth. Both albums have some great percussion. "Other musicians on the album include fretless bassist Francis Moze (one of many imitators of Weather Report bassist extraordinaire Jaco Pastorius), sax/flute player Didier Malherbe (who left Gong after this album), percussionist Mino Cinelou, Benoit Moerlen on vibraphone, and Mireille Bauer on vibraphone, marimba, glockenspiel, and toms. It is worth noting that mallet instruments are featured quite prominently and their use sets Gong apart."

R_burke · « **Reply #11 on:** 15 Jun 2010, 06:53 pm »

Quote from: lonewolfny42 on 15 Jun 2010, 07:00 am

+1 on the U.K. suggestion.... Samples...

You might also check out a new release....Blues For Tony... (Tony Williams tribute)

I like this live one....All Night Wrong...

I really like the Blues for Tony release

Rick Craig · « **Reply #12 on:** 15 Jun 2010, 07:09 pm »

Quote from: lonewolfny42 on 15 Jun 2010, 07:00 am

+1 on the U.K. suggestion.... Samples...

You might also check out a new release....Blues For Tony... (Tony Williams tribute)

I like this live one....All Night Wrong...

Man, how did I miss that Blues for Tony release?

Thanks for the heads up - definitely have to get that!

jimdgoulding · « **Reply #13 on:** 15 Jun 2010, 07:53 pm »

Me, too.

aragon63 · « **Reply #14 on:** 15 Jun 2010, 09:15 pm »

I like this one ...... a lot ...... Allan Holdsworth Group -- Then! (Live)

Recorded Live in Tokyo 5/1990

drphoto · « **Reply #15 on:** 15 Jun 2010, 10:28 pm »

another +1 on the Bruford "One of a Kind". I had that LP at one time. I can't believe I gave away all my vinyl, especially as I'm a vinylphool once again. Of course, I done a lot of unbelievably stupid stuff my entire life. But that's another subject.

Yeah I've gone from 90% DVD concert vids to 90% vinyl of late. Gotta see if I can find "Pulse" on the the big black disk.

Ok, back on thread. If you like Holdsworth, I think you might also like Steve Hackett, formerly of Genesis. I thought his solo on "Firth of Fifth" was just, well.....lovely, for lack of a better word. Fairly simple but so lyrical. However, I'm not familiar w/ his solo work.

this just added: (and yes it's offthread but eclein will be cool with it) I just did a search for "Pulse" on vinyl. $400!!!! damn.

looks like that ain't gonna happen.

eclein · « **Reply #16 on:** 15 Jun 2010, 10:43 pm »

$400--OUCH!
I'm stickin with used CD's..sorta...at least today!

BrassEar · « **Reply #17 on:** 15 Jun 2010, 11:00 pm »

Allan has been talking and hanging out with Eddie again. They have been talking for years since they live in close proximity. However, as usual, money is the barrier.

FYI, I have all of Allan's CDs and I still think Bruford's One of a Kind is his best work. To each his own.

It's true that Allan and Bruford were sacked from UK. What a joke.

eclein · « **Reply #18 on:** 15 Jun 2010, 11:17 pm »

When I was younger and playing drums actively I never paid to much attention to Bruford, I even met him but didn't know until afterward who he was...I'm payin attention now!!!
"Close To The Edge" never gets old to me..
I look forward to checking out UK, "One of a".. and "If Summer Had Its Ghosts"-Towner and Bruford combination is very intriguing!!
Thanks gentlemen..got a nice wish list going again..
Ed L.

hndaaudio · « **Reply #19 on:** 16 Jun 2010, 10:46 am »

My favorite albums under the Holdsworth name are Velvet Darkness and I.O.U.
Both are outstanding.Also Road Games,Metal Fatigue and Sand are excellent.By the late 80's I lost interest as most of his albums started sounding the same.

As far as albums under other names,Tony Williams-Believe It,Bruford-One of a Kind,U.K.-same are all great.His work with Gong is also very good.

He is on lots more albums,but these will get you started.

I saw him live several times when he was touring for I.O.U. and Road Games,
amazing and recommended if he does a concert near you.Enjoy !