[Deftone]

As i know of BP-26 had the option of getting the internal dac,right?But,if i were to get the BDA-1,is it worth thr $$$$ to get the BP-26DA.Or should i just go with the BP-26 without the dac and get the external dac BDA-1.From my point of view it just a waste of $$$ to get the BP-26DA and get the BDA-1 at the same time ,right/wrong? :scratch:Or should i get both and is there any advantage if i were to get both bda-1 and bp-26da?Your thoughts please.

[James Tanner]

Hi Deftone,

The DAC used in the BP26 is limited to 96/24 and can only accomodate 2 COAX SPDIF inputs.  The DAC in the BDA-1 is capable of NATiVE 192/24 and has a variety of 8 varied inputs available for different types of digital connections.

So a lot will depend on your application now and in the future as to which one you choose. My recommendation is go with the BDA-1 as it future proofs you to some extent moving forward.

james

[Napalm]

You need only one of them.

Nap.   

[Deftone]

James,BCD-1 have the same DAC as the BDA-1,right?.So i don`t need to have the BDA-1 if i were to get the BCD-1,not unless if i were to go with the CD player w/out the DAC.Do i have the option of not having the DAC in the BCD-1?What is the pro/con of having an external DAC?

Din

[Napalm]

BCD-1 and BDA-1 have similar but not identical DACs. The BDA uses 2 DAC circuits per channel in a balanced configuration (for a total of 4) while the BCD uses one per channel (for a total of 2). The BDA approach should theoretically give a better S/N ratio in the DAC stage. The BCD has other advantages - like using a very precise clock for both the CD assembly and DAC. (if you go CD transport + BDA you will rely on the transport's clock).

Nap. 

[werd]

Don't go for the internal dac and then buy the outboard. Just get the outboard. Also get the remote with outboard for switching. The BP26 offers no switching sources with the remote. The bda has so many inputs that by using that dac to decode you can also switch from your couch. I am not sure if the BP26dac can do that  .

Anyways it will sound better too.

[Deftone]

Now i am really confused,please tell me in a layman term.I should just get the BP26 without the DAC and get the external DAC BDA-1.Will the BDA and BCD clock be synchronised automatically or will there be a conflict between those 2 DAC?

[werd]

Now i am really confused,please tell me in a layman term.I should just get the BP26 without the DAC and get the external DAC BDA-1.Will the BDA and BCD clock be synchronised automatically or will there be a conflict between those 2 DAC?

Why do yo want the dac if you are using the bcd?

[Napalm]

Yes, if you already have the BCD-1 then you don't need any DAC....

Nap.

[Deftone]

So,i just go for the BCD and BP26 minus the BDA.

[Napalm]

So,i just go for the BCD and BP26 minus the BDA.

Sounds good.

Unless you think that in the future you'll want to play hi-rez files and get the BDP-1. At which point the best option would be:

Unexpensive CD player of decent japanese brand + BDA-1 + BP26

When the BDP-1 comes out you replace the CD player with it.

Nap.

[Deftone]

Nap,thanks for all the info and confusions.

Go for a decent Japanese/Korean CD player + BDA+BP26 and save some $$$ for the BDP for future upgradis.

[Napalm]

Go for a decent Japanese/Korean CD player + BDA+BP26 and save some $$$ for the BDP for future upgradis.

Sounds good. I would recommend that you audition this:

http://www.pioneerelectronics.ca/POCEN/Products/Home+Entertainment/Audio+Components/Elite+CD+Players/ci.PD-D6MK2-K.Kuro

street price is lower than that. It is very good at reading w/o errors, plays SACDs too, and is voiced similarly to the BCD-1. No, it isn't as good, but has similar tonal balance and smooth&detailed treble (i.e. it is pretty much different than the average Denon/Yamaha sound). So you can use it alone for a while. Once you connect it through digital output to the BDA-1, it will of course have the Bryston sound.

So the upgrade path would be:

Stage 1: Pio + BP26

Stage 2: Pio + BDA-1 + BP26

Stage 3: BDP-1 + BDA-1 + BP26 (and scrap the Pio or send it to a bedroom system)

Nap. 

[srb]

A rock-solid CD-only player (optomized for audio CDs) is the professional TASCAM CD-200 which can be found for < $300.
http://www.tascam.com/products/cd-200;9,23,3760,16.html
 
Although it is a 19" rack mount unit, I believe the rack ears can be removed to reduce it to the standard ~17" width.
 
Steve

[Napalm]

A rock-solid CD-only player (optomized for audio CDs) is the professional TASCAM CD-200 which can be found for < $300.
http://www.tascam.com/products/cd-200;9,23,3760,16.html

Pitch control! Cool, now we can listen to Miles Davis "Kind Of Blue" at proper speed!!!!

Nap. 

[Deftone]

What about the Oppo BDP-83SE,is it any good?

[srb]

Pitch control! Cool, now we can listen to Miles Davis "Kind Of Blue" at proper speed!!!!

The pitch control only works through the analog outputs, but you could hook up both analog and digital outputs and just use the analog for those "special" albums.
 
Steve

[werd]

The pioneer models are good transports.. Also the Marantz 9600 is very good too. I have heard both and i currently own a dv 59i UDP from Pioneer. That UDP can be had cheap right now for less than 300 bucks. It has its own cd laser assembly in a UDP (this is what you want for a transport/cd playback). It also plays sacd and DVDA.

So really there are some good options out there cheap....

[vegasdave]

Onkyo makes good cd players as well.

[Deftone]

May be i`ll just get the BCD and a Bluray player later on for my HT.