Nice Sound and Vision System with Unifield III

ceedee · « **on:** 13 May 2010, 07:39 pm »

Hey Guys,

Today I have built a very nice system and have had a very pleasent stay togheter with the owners. When the system setup was finished we listened at and looked to very nice music too.

Just have a look yourself.

Cor

varsharun · « **Reply #1 on:** 13 May 2010, 08:09 pm »

Great setup Cor!

I couldn't really tell from the pic, but what preamp and amp are being used?

Thanks,
Arun

ceedee · « **Reply #2 on:** 13 May 2010, 08:27 pm »

Hello Arun,

These are both NAT's. Sounds nice. OK, no KR but very musical too.

Cor

Antoine · « **Reply #3 on:** 13 May 2010, 08:45 pm »

Very nice set and room Cor, they're music lovers that's clear!

And if these are the people you were with and they're reading this too, to you and them both my apologies for disturbing you by calling you (twice!)

Best regards,

Antoine.

es347 · « **Reply #4 on:** 13 May 2010, 09:32 pm »

Very nice Cor. The room looks like it will be very lively with all those hard surfaces. I'd start off with a large area rug in front of the gear. Sounds good though, yes?

ceedee · « **Reply #5 on:** 13 May 2010, 09:47 pm »

Hey Gavin,

You are right.

The owners are really liveconcert minded so the room acts very nice and lifelike.
The wooden floor acts very musical too.
But,..there is a carpet (rug) already, but just out of reach of my camera.

Regards,

Cor

economides · « **Reply #6 on:** 14 May 2010, 02:25 pm »

What is the cd player Cor ?

ceedee · « **Reply #7 on:** 14 May 2010, 06:18 pm »

Quote from: economides on 14 May 2010, 02:25 pm

What is the cd player Cor ?

Hello Economidus,

This is a CEC.

Regards,

Cor

boead · « **Reply #8 on:** 14 May 2010, 06:22 pm »

Very nice but the first thing that comes to mind is that that room must be incredibly live full of nodes. Im not a Sonix nut but absorption, reflection and diffraction are imperative in any room.

ceedee · « **Reply #9 on:** 14 May 2010, 07:29 pm »

Quote from: boead on 14 May 2010, 06:22 pm

Very nice but the first thing that comes to mind is that that room must be incredibly live full of nodes. Im not a Sonix nut but absorption, reflection and diffraction are imperative in any room.

Hello Boead,

Why do you think this way?

Cor

boead · « **Reply #10 on:** 14 May 2010, 07:47 pm »

Quote from: ceedee on 14 May 2010, 07:29 pm

Hello Boead,

Why do you think this way?

Cor

Experience with a dozen rooms.

All I can see are hardwood floors and nothing on the walls. My tastes are for a quiet room, more dead than alive and I also like lower volume. But regardless what’s on the other side of that room it must be very lively which leads to an unpleasant environment – for me.

I learned a long time ago that you start with the room then add the components. Its not always possible and sometimes you have to just make do with the room you have but I work on that before I do anything else, especially changing gear.

Just my 2 cents for what its worth.

dflee · « **Reply #11 on:** 14 May 2010, 08:35 pm »

Cor
I'd be willing to bet you have a LOT of envious people viewing your pics. I know I am. Not only is your system great esthetically but your room looks great too. As far as the hard wood floors go, I would imagine your stands help a lot. I found with the proper stands or spikes that the rug on the floor is not a big deal. Please elaborate on the sound of the Uni III.

Don

boead · « **Reply #12 on:** 14 May 2010, 09:05 pm »

Well here’s my system, a little DIY but…

As you can see I eliminated the room acoustic issues by eliminating the room entirely.
And that’s NOT a regular battery, that’s a Sears DieHard!!

Now I know some of you maybe a bit envious but all I can say is with alot of hard work, time and patience you can achieve this level of perfection – well some of you may the rest will just have to wipe up the puddle at their feet.

boead · « **Reply #13 on:** 14 May 2010, 09:07 pm »

I call this Home “drive-in” Theater, Redneck style.

dflee · « **Reply #14 on:** 15 May 2010, 02:32 am »

boead
You might want to update your gallery. I mean them there are real braggin rights material and nothin remote in the gallery pics. Speaking of your gallery, hows that front wall of brick for deadening the sound?

boead · « **Reply #15 on:** 15 May 2010, 04:07 am »

Quote from: dflee on 15 May 2010, 02:32 am

boead
You might want to update your gallery. I mean them there are real braggin rights material and nothin remote in the gallery pics. Speaking of your gallery, hows that front wall of brick for deadening the sound?

That was a past house. You know that ugly as sin brick worked GREAT! Go Figure. That room was large too, lots of areas, natural bass traps. My current room is horrible, second room of a Bedroom suite. But what can you do?

ceedee · « **Reply #16 on:** 15 May 2010, 04:18 pm »

Quote from: boead on 14 May 2010, 07:47 pm

Experience with a dozen rooms.

All I can see are hardwood floors and nothing on the walls. My tastes are for a quiet room, more dead than alive and I also like lower volume. But regardless what’s on the other side of that room it must be very lively which leads to an unpleasant environment – for me.

I learned a long time ago that you start with the room then add the components. Its not always possible and sometimes you have to just make do with the room you have but I work on that before I do anything else, especially changing gear.

Just my 2 cents for what its worth.

Hello Bo and all,

It looks like every one has her or his own opinion of enjoying music.

These pictures show the situation created just after the setup was finished.
Sure there will be some items in the corners and something on the wall to complete the looks and sonics.
Once again this is a very life-like situation since the Unifield III can act musical with a very high touch of realism, the enjoyment is also very realistic. The VSA speakers can almost sound like a real music instrument. The psycho acoustical effect of this makes 'our brains' think about reality and we easily recognize the sound to be real. When a room is damped to much, you will lose a lot of this realism.
But,..... this is just a taste.

Regards,

Cor

JackD201 · « **Reply #17 on:** 16 May 2010, 05:07 pm »

I agree Cor. The Unifield III was designed for lively small spaces. It even has an itsy bitsy dip designed into its frequency response. This was measured and corroborated by Jonathan Valin in his review at TAS.

I'm not just a believer in having proper rooms. Heck I'm US certified for their design and construction. What I can say is there are more ways to skin a cat in as far as acoustic design and implementation is concerned and that is even before taste comes into the picture.

If one were to design a room from scratch without taking into consideration the radiation pattern and crossover type of the speaker one might get the desired reverberation time but might end up with a room that doesn't cater to the speakers that may go in it. A dead front wall with Von Schweikerts is a perfect example. You kill a big chunk of what makes VR series speakers special and that would be it's super cardiod pattern when the rear ambience tweeters are engaged. A dead front wall works great with dipoles in need of added definition however and point sources that are forward by nature.

Even in the best control rooms in the best mastering labs room treatments are added or subtracted from the room to optimize the chosen monitoring rig.

Saying one needs to have a good sounding room is just stating the obvious.

ceedee · « **Reply #18 on:** 21 Jun 2010, 10:34 pm »

Hi folks,

Today we upgraded this system with,...... yes a set of Kronzilla DX.
Wow that was nice....2x 100 watt in pure class A.

We bring them to the RMAF next october

Bill Baker · « **Reply #19 on:** 21 Jun 2010, 11:53 pm »

Hello Cor,
Not right or wrong but I am in the same camp as you when it comes to rooms. I like a lively room as long as it is not overbearing at any particular frequency range.

The system looks great and I am sure sounds just as good as it looks. Nice job.

Are the KRs really better than the NAT amps? Not questioning you at all, just curious as I have not heard either.

Be well