Found this interview with Brian Russell

vegasdave · « **on:** 1 May 2010, 03:17 am »

http://hifi-unlimited.blogspot.com/2009_10_01_archive.html

Napalm · « **Reply #1 on:** 1 May 2010, 05:16 am »

Quote from: vegasdave on 1 May 2010, 03:17 am

http://hifi-unlimited.blogspot.com/2009_10_01_archive.html

I fully agree with Brian here:

"Q: Speaking of the "new" yet to come BCD-2 CD player, with the dawn of hi-rez music down loads, do you still think there's a market for CD players? If so, how long do you see the CD player will still be around?

BR: Hey! They said the same thing with vinyl, right? Look at the market today, the turntable is still around, and a growing market too! Why? There'll always be guys whom have vinyl collections, and they'll still need good quality turntables to play their collection. I see the same thing happening to CD. There'll always be a guy, like my self, I have 5000 CDs, and I'll always need a CD player to play my collection. Down loads or not!"

Nap.

VOLKS · « **Reply #2 on:** 1 May 2010, 05:57 am »

At this point and all the info from what James tells us......The BCD-1 will be the first and last CDP Bryston makes.........with maybe a software update here and there.But a new CDP seems unlikely.

Napalm · « **Reply #3 on:** 1 May 2010, 06:31 am »

Ah. Oh well, meanwhile I found a local distributor for these, the aesthetics fit quite well with Bryston gear:

Nap.

P.S. You guys have to see the tray on this one. I couldn't find a pic but I assure you it's something worth seeing. It comes out on a pair of steel rods with the touch and feel of swiss mechanical devices.

Phil A · « **Reply #4 on:** 1 May 2010, 11:46 am »

But he also says about the new CD player -
"Now don't get all excited and ask me when that"ll come. It's still a white sheet of paper now!"

So it may never come. I'm sure they may have projects that never come to pass or get modified along the way.

whanafi · « **Reply #5 on:** 1 May 2010, 11:47 am »

Quote from: Napalm on 1 May 2010, 05:16 am

I fully agree with Brian here:

"Q: Speaking of the "new" yet to come BCD-2 CD player, with the dawn of hi-rez music down loads, do you still think there's a market for CD players? If so, how long do you see the CD player will still be around?

BR: Hey! They said the same thing with vinyl, right? Look at the market today, the turntable is still around, and a growing market too! Why? There'll always be guys whom have vinyl collections, and they'll still need good quality turntables to play their collection. I see the same thing happening to CD. There'll always be a guy, like my self, I have 5000 CDs, and I'll always need a CD player to play my collection. Down loads or not!"

Nap.

I think there is a difference between vinyl and CD's. You need a turntable to play vinyl, there is no other choice. With CD's, once you understand that a CD player is a transport and a DAC, one has the choice of ripping a collection and forgetting the physical medium.

Personally I prefer to have digital files which I can organize, access, backup, and protect, rather than the fragile and ever deteriorating CD.

Instead of spending on a high end CD transport, get the data off the CD and spend the money on the DAC.

James Tanner · « **Reply #6 on:** 1 May 2010, 12:44 pm »

Hi there,

This interview is about a year and a half old and we were considering a separate Drive unit to go with our BDA-1 DAC at the time. A separate drive unit though requires a 'clocking' circuit and cable to reduce jitter which would have meant redesigning the DAC to integrate properly with the separate Drive.

Given the increase in online access to high resolution digital files and standard 44.1 digital as well as ripping current CD's to a harddrive etc. we felt a Digital Player (BDP-1) which was designed to integrate with our current BDA-1 DAC and take the playback of digital files to a higher performance level made much better sense for our customers moving forward.

james

Anonamemouse · « **Reply #7 on:** 1 May 2010, 02:43 pm »

Quote from: James Tanner on 1 May 2010, 12:44 pm

...we were considering a separate Drive unit to go with our BDA-1 DAC at the time. A separate drive unit though requires a 'clocking' circuit and cable to reduce jitter which would have meant redesigning the DAC to integrate properly with the separate Drive.

In all honesty, THAT would be something I would have liked. A lot. And what I would have bought in a heartbeat. Please reconsider...

vegasdave · « **Reply #8 on:** 1 May 2010, 08:51 pm »

Quote from: James Tanner on 1 May 2010, 12:44 pm

Hi there,

This interview is about a year and a half old and we were considering a separate Drive unit to go with our BDA-1 DAC at the time. A separate drive unit though requires a 'clocking' circuit and cable to reduce jitter which would have meant redesigning the DAC to integrate properly with the separate Drive.

Given the increase in online access to high resolution digital files and standard 44.1 digital as well as ripping current CD's to a harddrive etc. we felt a Digital Player (BDP-1) which was designed to integrate with our current BDA-1 DAC and take the playback of digital files to a higher performance level made much better sense for our customers moving forward.

james

Thank you for clearing that up James. Were you aware of this interview with Brian?

Also, that pic of Brian carrying that 28B is impressive!

rob80b · « **Reply #9 on:** 1 May 2010, 09:32 pm »

psssst, don't tell anyone, the chassis was empty.

(just kidding Brian)

Napalm · « **Reply #10 on:** 1 May 2010, 09:34 pm »

Quote from: rob80b on 1 May 2010, 09:32 pm

psssst, don't tell anyone, the chassis was empty.

(just kidding Brian)

Nope. It had a Musical Fidelity Titan inside. Just for demo purpose.

Nap.

Stu Pitt · « **Reply #11 on:** 3 May 2010, 01:55 am »

Quote from: whanafi on 1 May 2010, 11:47 am

I think there is a difference between vinyl and CD's. You need a turntable to play vinyl, there is no other choice.

Personally I prefer to have digital files which I can organize, access, backup, and protect, rather than the fragile and ever deteriorating CD.

I agree with your premise regarding there's one way to play an LP, and CDs can be played without a CD player.

But 'fragile and ever deteriorating CD?' You can't be serious!

Unlike an LP or tape for that matter, you can't wear out a CD. There are millions in landfills, and I'm sure every one that isn't broken or scratched to all hell will play just fine.

whanafi · « **Reply #12 on:** 3 May 2010, 01:43 pm »

I am serious.

My CD collection goes back to the beginning of the medium, and when I started ripping seriously last year, I was disappointed at the number of discs that had errors.

This is partly due to Sony's MegaChangers which appear to have inflicted rub marks on the CD's, and partly due to where I have been living for the past 15 years - high humidity comes with the territory. Have a look at this - http://www.nature.com/news/1998/010628/full/news010628-11.html

rob80b · « **Reply #13 on:** 3 May 2010, 05:06 pm »

Quote from: Stu Pitt on 3 May 2010, 01:55 am

But 'fragile and ever deteriorating CD?' You can't be serious!

Unlike an LP or tape for that matter, you can't wear out a CD. There are millions in landfills, and I'm sure every one that isn't broken or scratched to all hell will play just fine.

Hi Stu

Unfortunately, CDs do deteriorate, I've had to replace or salvage a few as much as I could to a PC and make a copy. The aluminum layer can oxidize producing numerous pin holes making it unplayable.

Robert

rob80b · « **Reply #14 on:** 3 May 2010, 05:07 pm »

Quote from: rob80b on 3 May 2010, 05:06 pm

Hi Stu

Unfortunately, CDs do deteriorate, I've had to replace or salvage a few as much as I could to a PC and make a copy. The aluminum layer can oxidize producing numerous pin holes making it unplayable.

Robert

You can verify this by holding the CD up to a light source.

Robert

rob80b · « **Reply #15 on:** 3 May 2010, 05:21 pm »

This CD was fine at first.

Kronos Quartet from 1988 on Nonesuch, now this CD is completely unplayable

The surface is not scratched, this is between the layers.

whanafi · « **Reply #16 on:** 4 May 2010, 04:58 pm »

Just went back and checked - out of 850 CD's, 52 were unrippable. In some cases they play on a CD player, but on a computer, the software is unable to get a complete file.

Two conclusions - the CD standard really is quite robust when it comes to error suppression and interpolation, and - CD's are not indestructible.

rob80b · « **Reply #17 on:** 4 May 2010, 09:27 pm »

Quote from: whanafi on 4 May 2010, 04:58 pm

Just went back and checked - out of 850 CD's, 52 were unrippable. In some cases they play on a CD player, but on a computer, the software is unable to get a complete file.

Two conclusions - the CD standard really is quite robust when it comes to error suppression and interpolation, and - CD's are not indestructible.

For me it was the other way around, the CD players could not read the data, but the computer could.
Ok I think I got it, the physical CD will last its just the data layer that corrodes

Robert

vegasdave · « **Reply #18 on:** 4 May 2010, 11:23 pm »

Vinyl is not as fragile as commonly thought.

Stu Pitt · « **Reply #19 on:** 5 May 2010, 02:20 am »

I'm honestly not trying to be sarcastic here, but...

How do you get your CDs to look like that? Some older ones I have have some scratches from when I used to play them in my car, but nothing close to that. A few had some more scratches from falling between the seats and trying to fish them out. I've never had a CD scratched to the point where it wouldn't play or rip.

I'd get it you you were kids or guys who didn't care about your gear and music.

Please don't take that as criticism. I'm just trying to figure out how they'd get that bad.