Florida EHX 2010 Show

James Tanner · « **on:** 22 Mar 2010, 04:27 pm »

Hi Folks,

I am off for a week to the EHX Show in Florida.

http://www.ehxweb.com/

james

Ron D · « **Reply #1 on:** 22 Mar 2010, 04:35 pm »

Are you going to be in Montreal for the show this coming weekend?

James Tanner · « **Reply #2 on:** 22 Mar 2010, 04:50 pm »

Quote from: Ron D on 22 Mar 2010, 04:35 pm

Are you going to be in Montreal for the show this coming weekend?

Hi Ron,

No I am sorry I will be in Florida.

james

Napalm · « **Reply #3 on:** 22 Mar 2010, 04:55 pm »

Have fun!

And let us know the outcome of this session:

12:30 [...]
Making Money in Digital Content
[...]

i.e. if it's about some new DRM scams.

Nap.

Ron D · « **Reply #4 on:** 22 Mar 2010, 05:27 pm »

too bad although I can't blame you on the choice of location. The EHX website threw me as the daily highlights advise "May" as opposed to March.

James Tanner · « **Reply #5 on:** 28 Mar 2010, 03:55 pm »

Hi Folks,

Just got back from the 2010 EHX Show in Florida and I am happy to report that our demo won 2 awards from CE Pro the organizers of the show:

1. Best Sound!
2. Most Informative Demo!
(I got the award plaques to prove it)

Audio System was:

Speakers: new Thiel SCS4T Speakers (7 speakers) and 4-SS2 Subwoofers.
Projector: new Sim2 L.E.D. unit
Power Conditioner: Torus RM20 AVR
Power Amps : 6B SST2 (LCR) and 9B SST2 (surrounds)
Processor: SP3 (prototype)
DVD Player: OPPO

james

Ron D · « **Reply #6 on:** 28 Mar 2010, 05:12 pm »

James - Congrats on the awards! Which Oppo model were you using?

BTW - you didn't miss too much in Montreal. I hadn't been to the show in years so my point of reference is rather old but the number of exhibitors was pretty low (maybe the economy thing again...) and for the most part I thought it was pretty poor.

JohnnyB · « **Reply #7 on:** 28 Mar 2010, 06:21 pm »

James,

Based on your system desciption, looks like a 7.1 HT system.

What music (or film) were you demo'ing? Any 96/24 or AIX Records Videos?

Please post photo's!!

Cheers, JohnnyB

James Tanner · « **Reply #8 on:** 28 Mar 2010, 11:42 pm »

Quote from: Ron D on 28 Mar 2010, 05:12 pm

James - Congrats on the awards! Which Oppo model were you using?

BTW - you didn't miss too much in Montreal. I hadn't been to the show in years so my point of reference is rather old but the number of exhibitors was pretty low (maybe the economy thing again...) and for the most part I thought it was pretty poor.

You know I am not sure which OPPO it was - I assume their top BlueRay player?

james

James Tanner · « **Reply #9 on:** 28 Mar 2010, 11:43 pm »

Quote from: JohnnyB on 28 Mar 2010, 06:21 pm

James,

Based on your system desciption, looks like a 7.1 HT system.

What music (or film) were you demo'ing? Any 96/24 or AIX Records Videos?

Please post photo's!!

Cheers, JohnnyB

Hi JohnnyB,

We used a variety but they were 48K surround 5.1 and 7.1 files for the most part.

james

Fullvolume · « **Reply #10 on:** 29 Mar 2010, 12:52 am »

http://www.cepro.com/article/thiel_bryston_debut_products_at_ehx_spring/

vegasdave · « **Reply #11 on:** 29 Mar 2010, 01:19 am »

Awesome.

adol290 · « **Reply #12 on:** 29 Mar 2010, 02:27 am »

Will the SP3 come with any type of room correction, like audyssey.

Napalm · « **Reply #13 on:** 29 Mar 2010, 02:51 am »

Quote from: James Tanner on 28 Mar 2010, 03:55 pm

Hi Folks,
Just got back from the 2010 EHX Show in Florida and I am happy to report that our demo won 2 awards from CE Pro the organizers of the show:
1. Best Sound!
2. Most Informative Demo! [...]

Congratulations!

Nap.

James Tanner · « **Reply #14 on:** 29 Mar 2010, 11:10 am »

Quote from: adol290 on 29 Mar 2010, 02:27 am

Will the SP3 come with any type of room correction, like audyssey.

The chip is capable of room correction but we may not impliment it (I hate room correction) and if we do only from 200Hz and down.

james

MOZ · « **Reply #15 on:** 29 Mar 2010, 01:59 pm »

James, you should really think twice about it, even if you dislike it !
-> You will loose lots of consummers without it !
At least, give the choice as an option for thoose who really want/need it !

...

- pure audio version
- pure audio version with EQ
- audio version with EQ and video processing

Everybody will be happy !

Napalm · « **Reply #16 on:** 29 Mar 2010, 02:53 pm »

Quote from: MOZ on 29 Mar 2010, 01:59 pm

James, you should really think twice about it, even if you dislike it !
-> You will loose lots of consummers without it !
At least, give the choice as an option for thoose who really want/need it ! [...]

Mhhh I don't see much point in trying to compete head to head with this:

http://statement.anthemav.com/HTML/Products/D2v/D2v.html

I have Audyssey and I'm not impressed. It produces a dull sound that is "acceptable to most audiences". It won't shine in any way, it will just mask issues (to some extent).

If you have room problems, for HT I'd rather suggest you use small speakers (of good quality) with wide dispersion (you may consider omnipolars too) and use a state-of-the art subwoofer that has built-in room correction (or use something like this: http://www.paradigm.com/en/paradigm/subwoofers-paradigmperfectbasskit%28pbk1%29-series-1-5-30.paradigm).

In my experience the result is more satisfying than having the whole audio spectrum DSP-ed.

I can perfectly understand James position on this.

Nap.

MOZ · « **Reply #17 on:** 29 Mar 2010, 04:18 pm »

I understand it too and i don't plan to buy a SP3 anyway...
I don't have any problems with my system, witch is pretty well tuned (i'm using my Revel Sub30 owns EQ + MC12V5EQ for this...) !
I just know lots of people won't even consider the SP3 as an alternative choice because it won't provide any EQ (good or not !)...
They will rather go for the Anthem or the Denon (or Onkyo or what ever).
I'm not sure that's what James wants to happen

-> adding the feature could change the sellings...

Just my point !

James Tanner · « **Reply #18 on:** 29 Mar 2010, 06:39 pm »

Quote from: MOZ on 29 Mar 2010, 04:18 pm

I understand it too and i don't plan to buy a SP3 anyway...
I don't have any problems with my system, witch is pretty well tuned (i'm using my Revel Sub30 owns EQ + MC12V5EQ for this...) !
I just know lots of people won't even consider the SP3 as an alternative choice because it won't provide any EQ (good or not !)...
They will rather go for the Anthem or the Denon (or Onkyo or what ever).
I'm not sure that's what James wants to happen
-> adding the feature could change the sellings...

Just my point !

Hi MOZ,

You know its an interesting question - I have always prided myself in offering gear that I felt was the correct and proper way to reproduce music as accurately as possible. I think you're correct though that we would probably lose customers if we did not offer room correction as part of the package.

I am still in the pondering stage on this one.

james

adol290 · « **Reply #19 on:** 29 Mar 2010, 07:04 pm »

Interesting points, but i am curious

What are people here doing to tune their 5.1 HT systems to a room without a room correction product.

The bass is one thing(sub-woofer/crossover), and I understand that. Interesting that most people use a room correction product for the sub-woofer.

But how do you balance the rest of the full range speakers in a 5.1 system, using something like a pair of PMC EB1i's and say CB6i's for centre and surrounds.

You can set distances of the speakers, and the proper toe in as suggested by THX. Room treatments.
SPL each speaker. Anything else.