NuForce S-9 Speakers One Set SOLD other for repair or upgrade

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china

  I thought that I priced these speakers fairly........so far some inquires......and not much else. Disappointing to say the least.......I have been told to sell the speakers and I am open to offers!!!!

  These speakers are rather nice to say the least and it is sad but I need to move them.....offers!!!

  One set spoken for and in the process of closing the deal. One set remains and there is a story on the one remaining set. Let us just make a long story short and say it involves a "rug rat" with touchy feely hands and a replacement driver. Really open to offers on this one.

  One set has been sold and the other is going into the Aether Technologies where the "Magic Man" will work some magic. So stay tuned.


  I have been using the NuForce S-9 speakers across the front in a home theater system. All are in mint condition. Placed upon custom built Sound Anchor stands. Will take $1,699 for one set of which I am the original owner and $1,599 for the second set of which I am the second owner.

   For clarification, I have two pairs or four speakers, with three across the front for use in a home theater set up and the remaining one in it's shipping box stored in a closet.
 

Information and specifications on the S-9's as follows:

One of the "fastest" speakers you have ever heard.

Very high speed and excellent transparency, comparable to the best electrostatics - but without their dynamic limitations.

Deliver the widest dynamic range like the best horn speakers, but without the nasality and "honkiness" often associated with them.

A holographic level of imaging and sound-staging that is far superior to any horn speaker and better than many electrostatic designs.

The imaging of the NuForce S-9 speakers rivals any mini-monitor on the market, regardless of price.

The harmonic content, the textures and the timber of instruments are amazingly accurate.

Bass extension simply goes much lower than you would expect, given the size of the speaker. The bass is deep and powerful while remaining tuneful, detailed and full of texture and presence. It is punchy; has lots of slam and more than fast enough to keep up with the rest of the speaker.

Performance based on engineering
The NuForce S-9 was conceived on the premise that true high fidelity performance should be based on solid, quantifiable engineering principles while achieving the highest possible degree of value. In order to achieve those goals it became obvious that a slight departure from traditional methods and technologies would be required.

In order to fulfill these objectives, NuForce collaborated with SP Technology Loudspeakers, Inc and the progeny of this union, the S-9, is now a reality and is poised to establish a new reference for high fidelity loudspeaker performance at a remarkably reasonable price.

Defining one single technological attribute that sets the S-9 above the competition is impossible. The combined philosophies of NuForce and SP Tech do not permit products to be designed around singular, one-dimensional technological offerings. Instead, they insist upon viewing the product as a complete system, wherein every possible parameter is optimized within established price constraints. Such thorough design requires a much higher level of engineering than is normally encountered in the high fidelity marketplace.

In the earliest days of high fidelity, it was considered that the reduction of all possible forms of distortion to be the key for successful design. In relatively recent times, it seems much of the market has departed from this philosophy. The NuForce S-9 will ultimately prove such departure from rational logic to have been a serious mistake. Although the advanced technological features are many, we will attempt a cursory overview.

The Waveguide
To begin, one will immediately notice the “horn-shaped” device in the center of the enclosure. Although it derives its basic principles of operation from horn theory, the more appropriate term is “waveguide.” The waveguide was chosen as a solution to the many problems plaguing even the most expensive and exotic of tweeters. A “point of diminishing returns” is the result of implementing exotic tweeter technologies and such use drives the extreme costs incurred by many other designs. Yet, many problems remain. The waveguide solves virtually all of these issues to a much more refined level and at a substantially reduced cost.

The waveguide virtually eliminates the most common form of distortion – excess tweeter diaphragm excursion. It provides a rather large amount of acoustic “gain” at the lower frequency extreme of the tweeter’s operating range. This permits a very large reduction in drive current delivered to the tweeter while still maintaining a flat frequency response. As frequency is increased, the amount of gain provided by the waveguide continually decreases such that at approximately 5 KHz the gain is reduced to “unity.” This means that from 5 KHz on up to the upper limit of tweeter operation (25 kHz) there is no acoustic gain added to the tweeter’s nominal output. This sloping gain reduction eliminates the “honky” and irritating sound often associated with traditional horns. Simultaneously, the added gain of the waveguide permits a crossover frequency of 1.25 KHz, which is well below most traditional designs. Such a low crossover eliminates much of the undesirable “break-up modes” produced by woofer cones and delivers unprecedented detail and resolution in the critical midrange frequencies.

Adding to this, the waveguide provides an elegant solution for three other common problems. Diffraction artifacts (a form of distortion) are essentially eliminated as a result of the gentle sloping nature of the waveguide flare and its transition to the front panel. Other designs employing foam or felt rings around the tweeter, faceted front baffles and/or pyramid shapes only offer a partial solution over a relatively narrow frequency range. The waveguide on the other hand, eliminates diffraction artifacts over the entire operating range of the tweeter.

Time Domain distortion is reduced as a natural byproduct of the tweeter “set-back” required by the waveguide. This set-back reduces the amount of acoustic path length difference from the woofer and the tweeter. Stepped tweeter baffles and such, along with their associated diffraction anomalies, are simply not needed.

The last major area of improved performance provided by the waveguide is that of controlled dispersion. Without some form of “wave-directing” device, virtually all tweeters will suffer from a somewhat random pattern of sound dispersion. A well controlled and constant degree of dispersion is much more preferable, especially when real-world listening environments are considered. The S-9’s waveguide provides such dispersion control as a natural result of its physical geometry.

Aluminum Woofers
Aside from the waveguide, there are many other features that need to be highlighted. The large excursion, aluminum cone woofers provide deep powerful bass without suffering from the effects of dynamic compression, as do most woofers. The aluminum cone acts as a type of “heat sink” – keeping the voice-coil cooler under high power conditions and thereby reducing compression distortions. In addition, due to the rigid nature of aluminum, the woofers do not exhibit the normal cone flexing or “break-up modes” associated with other cone materials. They behave more as true “pistons” over their operating range and thereby eliminate much of the distortion produced by other typical devices.

The External Crossover
Thecrossovers alignment is a true, fourth order, Linkwitz-Riley, “acoustic” design. This means that the actual acoustic slopes achieve the Linkwitx-Riley transfer function rather than just considering the electrical components in the crossover. The fourth order L-R alignment is well known for providing an ideal “in-phase” condition between the drivers at the crossover frequency (1.25 KHz). This condition optimizes vertical dispersion and provides for the widest possible vertical seating angles. Of course, quality polypropylene capacitors and air-core coils are used throughout. Adding to this, the crossover is implemented externally and thereby avoids the potential of micro-phonic vibrations to be induced by enclosure-born vibrations.

The Enclosure
This leads to the last area of the S-9s superior design – the enclosure. It is constructed with 23 layers of Baltic-Birch plywood, assembled in a “stacked” configuration. Each layer represents both the external and internal profile of the enclosure. Each layer is precision cut by a CNC routing/boring center and then glued together. The combination of using the material on its “end-grain” along with the large amount of adhesives required, results in an extremely rigid enclosure. Special internal chambers utilized to reduce internal acoustic standing waves, double in their duty by providing added structural cross bracing. The combination results in an extremely rigid construction of moderately light weight, which shifts the potential for enclosure-born vibrations to higher frequencies. The effect is to push these unwanted resonances out of the woofer “pass-band” and thereby minimizes the likelihood that the back-energy of the woofer will ever excite them into resonant vibration.

Although far from exhaustive, the above over-view should give the potential customer cause to take notice. It can be seen that clearly, the NuForce S-9 is not just another “me too” high-end loudspeaker. Much engineering and forethought has gone into the design and one would be hard pressed to find an equal at several times its price. Surely, it will be found to offer unprecedented levels of performance and value and will become a benchmark for others to follow.

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This model is designed for 2-channel audio as well as LRC speakers in a home theater setup. Audio professionals (recording engineer, musicians) will find this speaker exceptionally accurate for use as monitor speaker.
Specifications:

•Frequency Response: 40 Hz to 20 kHz. +/- 2dB; –6db @ 33 Hz
•Low Frequency Tuning: Proprietary Hybrid Ported Reflex
•Low Frequency Attenuation Slope: 24 dB/Octave below 40 Hz.
•Phase Response: Less than 360 from 100 Hz - 20 kHz
•Group Delay Response: Less than 1mS DELAY SHIFT from 100 Hz - 20,000 Hz.
•Peak Power Handling: Greater than 1,000 WATTS (10mS)
•Short Term Maximum: 500 WATTS (I.E.C. 268-5)
•Power Handling: Long Term Maximum - 200 WATTS (I.E.C. 268-5)
•Sensitivity: 89 dB @ 2.83V /1M & 86dB @ 1 W/1M
•Impedance: 4-Ohms (nominal)
•Crossover: 4th order symmetrical, in-phase Linkwitz-Riley @ 1,250 Hz.
•Minimum Recommended: 50 WATTS RMS / Channel
•Amplifier Power: 200 - 750 WRMS @4ohm / Ch. preferred
•Low Frequency Drivers: 2 X 6.5” Aluminum Cone w/ center Phase Plug
•"High Frequency Driver: Waveguide Loaded 1” Textile Dome - Ferrofluid Cooled

 
« Last Edit: 23 Jun 2010, 01:32 am by china »

china

Re: NuForce S-9 Speakers For Sale DRASTIC PRICE REDUCTION
« Reply #1 on: 6 Apr 2010, 04:27 pm »
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morganc

Re: NuForce S-9 Speakers For Sale DRASTIC PRICE REDUCTION
« Reply #2 on: 7 Apr 2010, 07:07 pm »
One would assume that a title that says drastic price reduction would include  price, correct?

nunhgrader

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Re: NuForce S-9 Speakers For Sale DRASTIC PRICE REDUCTION
« Reply #3 on: 9 Apr 2010, 07:00 pm »
One would assume that a title that says drastic price reduction would include  price, correct?

I think it does but, I was wondering if this: " Will take $4,999 for the speakers & the Sound Anchor stands " was the reduced price. Just happened across the post and wanted to see pics :D

china


china

Hello Audiocircle,

  I would like to sell these speakers and need offers!!!!

  As always, all the best.



China

china

time for the bumb......as I was boxing these speakers........we were paid a surprise visit by a friend (ex-friend???) and her little rug rat went straight to the speaker and (as I had a small heart attack) managed to place a crease in the aluminium driver.

I now have the replacement driver but I really do not want to be the one to replace the driver.......any suggestions or worthwhile comments???

As always, all the best.



Ralph

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Had a friend in a similar situation.... the replacement process for the woofer isn't hard.... just a little resoldering.  The tweeter was involved, but as long as yours is okay you should be fine.