SRA Picture, Opinions wanted

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WntrMute2

SRA Picture, Opinions wanted
« on: 17 Feb 2010, 03:13 pm »




I'm just beginning to explore my VTA/SRA this is a shot that looks to me like about 0 degrees. Do you all agree? The angle of the arm is fairly head down which surprises me. Picture quality is pretty good for a hand held Sony Cyber-shot.

Wayner

Re: SRA Picture, Opinions wanted
« Reply #1 on: 17 Feb 2010, 04:40 pm »
What is zero degree?

Wayner

WntrMute2

Re: SRA Picture, Opinions wanted
« Reply #2 on: 17 Feb 2010, 05:57 pm »
Straight up and down.  I guess I am really referring to the angle of the stylus as being at 90 degrees from the record surface.  The posts I've read seem to mention a 1-2 angle forward tilt to the stylus from true vertical.  That's where I came up with the zero degrees.   It appears that my stylus is pretty close to that (as a baseline). 

BobRex

Re: SRA Picture, Opinions wanted
« Reply #3 on: 17 Feb 2010, 06:32 pm »
It's difficult to see the actual stylus with enough resolution to determine SRA.  Can you get a tighter zoom shot?  And maybe add a little more light?

From what I can see in the picture, it looks like the stylus is tilted front by quite a bit.  But there is too much shadow to tell for sure.

Scott F.

Re: SRA Picture, Opinions wanted
« Reply #4 on: 17 Feb 2010, 06:46 pm »
I highly recommend reading this article that my old cohort Goeff Husband wrote over at TNT-Audio.

Exposing the VTA myth?

Wayner

Re: SRA Picture, Opinions wanted
« Reply #5 on: 17 Feb 2010, 08:24 pm »
Straight up and down.  I guess I am really referring to the angle of the stylus as being at 90 degrees from the record surface.  The posts I've read seem to mention a 1-2 angle forward tilt to the stylus from true vertical.  That's where I came up with the zero degrees.   It appears that my stylus is pretty close to that (as a baseline).

OK, that is what I thought you were getting at. I read the article Scott posted and according to the author, it didn't make jack squat difference. For the most part, I agree, but I do have a habit of locating the arm horizontal to the record surface, (with stylus in the groove) and leaving it at that. I know that different weight records will change that (ever so small), but I don't really care. I'm not going to spend my life change SRA all the time.

Considering the journey the stylus makes thru the side of the record, with only two "happy spots" (null point locations), the rest being filled with ever change tracking angle distortions, I think this really, truly makes the SRA kind of not a factor, or at best just another vector in the ever changing journey.

Warped records discussed in the article did make me start to think, and one thing I thought of that the author did not (or at least mention) is inertia. I suppose this depends on how drastic the warp is, but I have had some records that were so bad, that the stylus actually left the groove. Would changing (or adding) a degree (putting the tale up) on the tonearm help this? Maybe, maybe not.

I do wonder about tonearms that have viscous damping. Since this retards the arms movement to change, I suspect a problem if the damping is too much, causing the stylus to become airborn to the positive side of the warp and crash into the groove on the downward movement, because it was too slow to react.  After all, the damping will affect horizontal and vertical movement.

A very interesting topic.

Wayner  :D