Why do most Blu-Ray's suck?

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Why do most Blu-Ray's suck?
« on: 12 Feb 2010, 05:46 pm »
Don't get me wrong.  I can get my heart pumping at the 1951 version of The Day the Earth Stood Still at 1080p!  The clarity is amazing.  My problem is that I enjoy the DVD version of '"Batman Begins" better than my blu-ray version as the Blu-Ray's are almost all widescreen versions.  When the movies show in HD on my cable they are almost never letterboxed.  Comcast seems to know that people hate letterboxing so why hasn’t Blu-Ray caught on?  Are they all intellectuals!?  Or, maybe the Blu-Ray format doesn’t have enough capacity to hold a long 1080p movie not letteboxed?

Bob

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Re: Why do most Blu-Ray's suck?
« Reply #1 on: 12 Feb 2010, 05:49 pm »
Video purist thinking perhaps? :scratch:

knut_the_viking

Re: Why do most Blu-Ray's suck?
« Reply #2 on: 12 Feb 2010, 05:51 pm »
My Blu-Ray player (Samsung BD-3600) sucks because it is adhering way too strictly to the Prohibited User Option thing...

Can't cancel out of copyright or intros or anything...

bunnyma357

Re: Why do most Blu-Ray's suck?
« Reply #3 on: 12 Feb 2010, 06:04 pm »
If you have a projector and fill the screen 2.35 movies are way more impressive than 16:9.  The only movies I've had issues with are The Dark Knight where the Aspect Ratio changes, and Angels & Demons where they put subtitles in the letter box.

I am totally happy with the decision to letterbox BluRays, for me cropping sucks.

Jim C

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Re: Why do most Blu-Ray's suck?
« Reply #4 on: 12 Feb 2010, 06:16 pm »
Don't get me wrong.  I can get my heart pumping at the 1951 version of The Day the Earth Stood Still at 1080p!  The clarity is amazing.  My problem is that I enjoy the DVD version of '"Batman Begins" better than my blu-ray version as the Blu-Ray's are almost all widescreen versions.  When the movies show in HD on my cable they are almost never letterboxed.  Comcast seems to know that people hate letterboxing so why hasn’t Blu-Ray caught on?  Are they all intellectuals!?  Or, maybe the Blu-Ray format doesn’t have enough capacity to hold a long 1080p movie not letteboxed?

Bob

This has been discussed in AVS forums to death.  I believe the reason is about video purity.  Since movies are like works of art, they want to show the film the way the directors meant it to be shown.  Unfortunately, the wider aspect ratio of 2.35:1 that movie directors prefer is not the same standard that HDTV adopted which is 1.78:1.  The reason for this is because 1.78:1 is wide enough for most TV shows.  But movie directors want the wider angle to capture more information on the screen. Did you notice that most comedy movies are in 1.78:1 aspect ratio?

Bottom line is: if audiophiles want a stereo recording to be as close as possible to the original.  It's the same logic with movies, they want the picture to be the same format as the original.  Stretching or cropping the picture would be like altering the stereo recording by using those fake matrix effects. 

As an alternative though, Blu-ray players or TV can have user selectable stretching modes just like receivers have a 5 channel stereo or those simulated surround modes.

Dan Driscoll

Re: Why do most Blu-Ray's suck?
« Reply #5 on: 13 Feb 2010, 04:37 pm »
At the other end of the spectrum...

My biggest gripe about VHS (other than poor PQ), early DVDs and movies on TV was that they very rarely maintained the original aspect ratio. Almost all were cropped and I hated that.  :nono:

Even on my old 27" and later 35" tube TVs I would much rather have watched movies letter-boxed than cropped.

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Re: Why do most Blu-Ray's suck?
« Reply #6 on: 13 Feb 2010, 05:03 pm »
At the other end of the spectrum...

My biggest gripe about VHS (other than poor PQ), early DVDs and movies on TV was that they very rarely maintained the original aspect ratio. Almost all were cropped and I hated that.  :nono:

Even on my old 27" and later 35" tube TVs I would much rather have watched movies letter-boxed than cropped.

I agree completely. Cropping a scene can entirely change its intended meaning.

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Re: Why do most Blu-Ray's suck?
« Reply #7 on: 13 Feb 2010, 05:08 pm »
Don't get me wrong.  I can get my heart pumping at the 1951 version of The Day the Earth Stood Still at 1080p!  The clarity is amazing.  My problem is that I enjoy the DVD version of '"Batman Begins" better than my blu-ray version as the Blu-Ray's are almost all widescreen versions.  When the movies show in HD on my cable they are almost never letterboxed.  Comcast seems to know that people hate letterboxing so why hasn’t Blu-Ray caught on?  Are they all intellectuals!?  Or, maybe the Blu-Ray format doesn’t have enough capacity to hold a long 1080p movie not letteboxed?

Bob

As others have pointed out, you are seeing the movie as intended - using the original format.  This is how everybody "should" watch the movie. 

Blu-ray doesn't have enough capacity for 1080p....thanks for giving me something to laugh about today.   :lol:

If you care to educate yourself, here is a good place to start:  http://us.blu-raydisc.com/#/pages/whatisblu

George