Weather talk

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dvenardos

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« on: 10 Feb 2010, 10:08 am »
For what it is worth, extreme variations in weather is one of the predictions of climate change.
For a non-partisan, completely scientific analysis of climate change I recommend The Teaching Company. They have great university level lectures covering all topics.
http://www.teach12.com/ttcx/coursedesclong2.aspx?cid=1219

The owner of the flat pack can't get it out yet because of the snow... Dang global warming.  :duh:  I'll keep you posted.

motosapien

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« Reply #1 on: 10 Feb 2010, 03:26 pm »
For what it is worth, extreme variations in weather is one of the predictions of climate change.
http://www.teach12.com/ttcx/coursedesclong2.aspx?cid=1219

I thought it was the plot line from a second rate movie :wink:

I'm tempted to purchase a cordless skillsaw which, along with a straight edge and c clamps could do the trick.  Then some larger clamps, a router, circle jig and a couple bits and I'd be good to go.  I can do the wood cutting on my apartment's balcony.  I never minded investing in tools, particularly when they allow me to create something beautiful and functional.

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« Reply #2 on: 10 Feb 2010, 03:31 pm »
I think Texas is immune to global warming. :wink:

Another thing to remember is that winter still happens.

m-fine

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« Reply #3 on: 10 Feb 2010, 04:07 pm »
When temps actually exceed levels from 900+ years ago, which were much warmer than the last decade, I'll worry about "climate change". For now I am much more concerned about the supply of Neo 3 tweeters and properly routed baffles.

Danny Richie

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« Reply #4 on: 10 Feb 2010, 05:36 pm »
Yeah, we have seen one of the heaviest winters in 20 years. The rest of the country is reporting similar observations.

Yes, i am sold out of Neo-3 pdr's and still waiting on a shipment from BG. They were out of them too. They have more arriving on the 12th. But then they have to add the deep back cup to them. Then they will send me all that the can.

skeeter99

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« Reply #5 on: 10 Feb 2010, 07:34 pm »
Yeah, we have seen one of the heaviest winters in 20 years. The rest of the country is reporting similar observations.

Yes, i am sold out of Neo-3 pdr's and still waiting on a shipment from BG. They were out of them too. They have more arriving on the 12th. But then they have to add the deep back cup to them. Then they will send me all that the can.

NO!!! I was going to order my stuff either today or tomorrow for my N3's and N3S :banghead:

On a different note, us Seattle-ites have had the most mild winter in decades. Absolutely zero snow and only 1 week of freezing temps. Last year, record lows down to almost zero and record snow falls.

Danny Richie

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« Reply #6 on: 10 Feb 2010, 08:43 pm »
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NO!!! I was going to order my stuff either today or tomorrow for my N3's and N3S


You can order it, but it won't go out till late next week or the week after.

If you call in your order then I will not charge your card until in ships.

If you order on line then it will charge your card that day.

srb

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« Reply #7 on: 10 Feb 2010, 08:45 pm »
I'm tempted to purchase a cordless skillsaw which, along with a straight edge and c clamps could do the trick.

Having had several cordless saws bog down in tough MDF, I would suggest a corded model, unless you just can't get AC power to your cutting site.
 
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« Reply #8 on: 10 Feb 2010, 09:12 pm »
NO!!! I was going to order my stuff either today or tomorrow for my N3's and N3S :banghead:

On a different note, us Seattle-ites have had the most mild winter in decades. Absolutely zero snow and only 1 week of freezing temps. Last year, record lows down to almost zero and record snow falls.
I think we have your weather this year.  Something like 48" of snow this winter when we normally get less than 12" an entire winter.  Having fun in the blizzard today.  Time for another Audio Mad Scientist project!  BWAHAHAHA!  :-)

Back to the regularly scheduled programming!

motosapien

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« Reply #9 on: 11 Feb 2010, 02:36 am »

Having had several cordless saws bog down in tough MDF, I would suggest a corded model, unless you just can't get AC power to your cutting site.
 
Steve

That is interesting Steve.  I thought the MDF would cut like butter.  Thanks for the tip.

dvenardos

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« Reply #10 on: 11 Feb 2010, 06:03 am »
Yeah, we have seen one of the heaviest winters in 20 years. The rest of the country is reporting similar observations.

Weather is totally different then climate. BTW, I am a libertarian so don't get the wrong idea here. I am just a big believer in understanding science.

m-fine

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« Reply #11 on: 11 Feb 2010, 01:21 pm »
The 20th century was only about the 4th warmest out of the last 20, and even 2000 years is way way too short of a sample period to study given that there are multiple climate cycles with periods in the 10's of thousands of years to millions of years. Any "science" that looks at a few decades or even a few centuries is at it's very core bunk due to the massive selection bias in data taken over a fraction of a cycle. It is the equivalent of looking at 0.00001 seconds of the Telarc 1812 recording, and deducing that the entire track contains no bass and no significant dynamics.  Clearly temps have risen from recent lows over the last couple of centuries but that tells us nothing about why or what will happen next.

My biggest concern with the global warming BS is that we are ignoring real polition in our attempts to reduce CO2. See the Prius and solar panels as great examples, or look at hydro power for massive environmental destruction. 

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« Reply #12 on: 11 Feb 2010, 06:18 pm »
Well said, m-fine.  Also, 20% of the CO2 emissions come from rain forest region natives slashing and burning trees.  Spend some buck teaching them how to grow and manage crops properly and reduce CO2 greatly.

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« Reply #13 on: 11 Feb 2010, 06:52 pm »
It snowed, clearly nothing can be wrong in the universe....gotta love the 'news'

I don't think any of us are educated enough to know for sure if global warming is or is not really occurring.  Most people have politically motivated opinions from what I've seen.

skeeter99

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« Reply #14 on: 11 Feb 2010, 07:04 pm »
It snowed, clearly nothing can be wrong in the universe....gotta love the 'news'

I don't think any of us are educated enough to know for sure if global warming is or is not really occurring.  Most people have politically motivated opinions from what I've seen.

And on that note lets get back to our regularly scheduled programming  :D

Danny Richie

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« Reply #15 on: 11 Feb 2010, 07:09 pm »
And you guys are free to discuss the weather as it is an issue right now. Just try not to let it turn to political in nature. Voice your thoughts without it being a debate.

We are getting more snow today again. It looks like about 5 to 6 inches so far since this morning.

I am all for going green and using alternative fuels. I might even build my own electric car in the next year or so. My sound system is mostly off the grid now too.  :D   I think we have to be responsible for what we have been given, but we can't punish people into being more responsible. Certainly taxing coal burning power plants harder is just going to make our bills higher.

Like many other experts, I don't know if we are in a warming up cycle or not, and if it is anything more than an increase in solar flares. So far, it has been nothing but colder around here so it is really hard to say.

In 1981 (I think) we had a summer that took us above 100 degrees 40 days in a row. We even got up to 117 one day. And we haven't seen anything even close to that ever since.

Danny Richie

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« Reply #16 on: 11 Feb 2010, 07:13 pm »
I split our weather discussion into a new topic.

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dvenardos

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« Reply #18 on: 12 Feb 2010, 04:40 am »
The bottom line is that climate is extremely complicated and we have no way to predict what effect we are having. We do know what effect greenhouse gasses have and if you want to see the result of a runaway greenhouse effect all you have to do is look at our sister planet, Venus. It takes centuries for CO2 to cycle out of the atmosphere and we don't know what effect we are having by taking sequestered CO2 and pumping it into the atmosphere. The catastrophic effects are extremely unlikely but still possible. In the absence of certain knowledge surely prudence seems wise. Should we throw ourselves into the stone age to reduce emissions, of course not, but we should be concerned and take measures to reduce our emissions and preserve the natural processes that sustain life on earth. Electricity is cheap in the US and clearly we can afford to pay a little more in order to be cleaner.

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« Reply #19 on: 12 Feb 2010, 12:38 pm »
All I know is that the cold temperatures are keeping me from painting my sub enclosure.  C'mon, global warming!  Where are you when I need you?