Death of the CD/DVD?

James Tanner · « **on:** 1 Feb 2010, 08:46 pm »

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20100201-711088.html?mod=WSJ_earnings_MIDDLETopHeadlines

1ZIP · « **Reply #1 on:** 1 Feb 2010, 10:50 pm »

Well, I guess it's time to dump the BCD-1 before the market is flooded with used CD players (heavy sigh)!

Bigfish · « **Reply #2 on:** 1 Feb 2010, 11:00 pm »

Is the question, "Death of the CD/DVD," meant in terms of the way main stream music purchasers will buy their music or movies? In this sense CDs and DVDs are essentially in the position cassettes and VHS were in several years ago. Now they are basically gone! I do however believe that music lovers like those here on AC will continue to enjoy CDs for a very long time!

Ken

James Tanner · « **Reply #3 on:** 1 Feb 2010, 11:14 pm »

Yes I saw on the busness channel today the serious shape Cinram is in which is the largest DVD producer in the world.

I hope that specialty companies will pickup the ball and run with it. Everything I read though says downloading will be the future and hard copy is dead.

james

rob80b · « **Reply #4 on:** 1 Feb 2010, 11:47 pm »

Quote from: Bigfish on 1 Feb 2010, 11:00 pm

Is the question, "Death of the CD/DVD," meant in terms of the way main stream music purchasers will buy their music or movies? In this sense CDs and DVDs are essentially in the position cassettes and VHS were in several years ago. Now they are basically gone! I do however believe that music lovers like those here on AC will continue to enjoy CDs for a very long time!

Ken

Well as long as you hold onto to your BCD-1, because I do not believe there will be further advancement on the players as we've witnessed with vinyl play back after it died !

Robert

Phil A · « **Reply #5 on:** 2 Feb 2010, 12:04 am »

Quote from: 1ZIP on 1 Feb 2010, 10:50 pm

Well, I guess it's time to dump the BCD-1 before the market is flooded with used CD players (heavy sigh)!

That is one of the prime reasons I sold my BCD-1 a couple of weeks back and bought a mildly used (like 2 weeks) BDA-1. I expected to have more than one source and one of those sources to be non-physical media. I already have another older DAC in a secondary basement system. I really do think that over time (probably not in the very near future though) you will see more high end CD players being dumped. The DAC I have in the basement I got used for next to nothing. It is a 15 year old Micromega DuoPro. It still sounds very good. No it is not a BDA-1 or a BCD-1, but it does not get blown out of the water and can still best many $1.5-$2k CD players with a good transport. I think you will see more CD players getting dumped perhaps a few years down the road and perhaps a decade from now there won't be many companies even making them.

Laundrew · « **Reply #6 on:** 2 Feb 2010, 03:20 am »

I predict that the CD will be replaced by the vinyl record

Have you noticed that the vinyl section in various music stores is slowly expanding?

Be well…

*Scotty* · « **Reply #7 on:** 2 Feb 2010, 03:40 am »

Here is another link to a more complete story concerning Cinram. http://thetimes-tribune.com/news/cinram-dvd-plant-loses-warner-home-video-contract-area-s-largest-employer-faces-more-job-cuts-1.590239
Warner Home Video may replace Cinram with another less expensive mfgr.
Scotty

gerald porzio · « **Reply #8 on:** 2 Feb 2010, 06:33 am »

Who will be carpooling for the funeral? What type of music will be played? Who will deliver the eulogy? Where can audiophiles contribute if they'd rather not send flowers? These arrangements should be made before hand.

HsvHeelFan · « **Reply #9 on:** 2 Feb 2010, 04:37 pm »

I've got 500+ CDs. I'm not getting out of CDs for a while. While I do miss the large album cover artwork and liner notes of LP's and as I get older, the small fonts on the CD liner notes becomes more of a problem, I could never tolerate the hassle and S/N of LPs.

I have some of my CD collection ripped to a couple of pc's and while my kids have ipods, I don't. I mostly use the pc based copies to rip CD's for the car. I'm probably 2-3 years away from swapping out my car audio and cd changer for an ipod or USB based music storage.

Personally, I don't want a computer anywhere near my main audio system.

HsvHeelFan

1ZIP · « **Reply #10 on:** 2 Feb 2010, 04:39 pm »

Quote from: James Tanner on 1 Feb 2010, 11:14 pm

Yes I saw on the busness channel today the serious shape Cinram is in which is the largest DVD producer in the world.

I hope that specialty companies will pickup the ball and run with it. Everything I read though says downloading will be the future and hard copy is dead.

james

It's interesting to speculate what is beyond "downloading". Maybe some sort of thought controlled implant using nano technology that bypasses the ear (direst drive) completely. Think a song and it plays in your head! After all, how many of us speak of "a song going off in our head"!

I probably need more coffee at this point!

werd · « **Reply #11 on:** 2 Feb 2010, 04:44 pm »

Cds will always be around, hard drives fail to often and will create too much of a noticeable market nuisance. Imagine having all your stuff on a single hard drive that fails or gets run over by a virus. Too risky, There are preventable techniques of backup but nothing that the mainstream public will buy into.

1ZIP · « **Reply #12 on:** 2 Feb 2010, 04:56 pm »

..,ya, I don't intend to dump my CD player(s). Getting a system together for downloading/streaming in on the horizon. Just can't decide what to get.

Anyway by the time CD's are history I'll probably have gone to that great music store in the sky or be so deaf I couldn't hear a coke bottle in a garbage can!

James Tanner · « **Reply #13 on:** 2 Feb 2010, 05:01 pm »

Quote from: werd on 2 Feb 2010, 04:44 pm

Cds will always be around, hard drives fail to often and will create too much of a noticeable market nuisance. Imagine having all your stuff on a single hard drive that fails or gets run over by a virus. Too risky, There are preventable techniques of backup but nothing that the mainstream public will buy into.

What about your music library is downloaded to harddrive or SSD and you then make CDR's/DVR's of the material you want to protect?

james

werd · « **Reply #14 on:** 2 Feb 2010, 05:03 pm »

Quote from: James Tanner on 2 Feb 2010, 05:01 pm

What about your music library is downloaded to harddrive or SSD and you then make CDR's/DVR's of the material you want to protect?

james

Exactly.... but the public will just come to conclusion... why don't i just make iteasy and just buy the cd. (if it's still available)

turkey · « **Reply #15 on:** 2 Feb 2010, 05:11 pm »

Quote from: werd on 2 Feb 2010, 05:03 pm

Exactly.... but the public will just come to conclusion... why don't i just make iteasy and just buy the cd. (if it's still available)

Or you could just re-download the content. Amazon does this with the Kindle, and I would think Apple does it with their music store and iTunes too.

This "death of the CD/DVD" presupposes large amounts of inexpensive bandwidth to the home, so it's then as easy to re-deliver the content as it was to deliver it in the first place.

Laundrew · « **Reply #16 on:** 2 Feb 2010, 05:14 pm »

I was reading an interesting article (for the life of me, I cannot remember where) a long time ago about Electronic Books. This article was discussing that you could only purchase a “license” for the book you wanted to read. This meant that you could not sell the E-Book as you did not own it - you own a conventional book and if wish to sell it, you may do so.

As you own a music CD or record, because you own it and if you wish to sell it - you can. If we go the digital download route, will we only be allowed to purchase the license and not own the music? This would mean that you could never legally sell your copy.

Be well…

Daedalus Audio · « **Reply #17 on:** 2 Feb 2010, 05:15 pm »

Quote from: werd on 2 Feb 2010, 04:44 pm

Cds will always be around, hard drives fail to often and will create too much of a noticeable market nuisance. Imagine having all your stuff on a single hard drive that fails or gets run over by a virus. Too risky, There are preventable techniques of backup but nothing that the mainstream public will buy into.

once the cd's are ripped it is effortless (and cheap) to back it all up onto a second hard drive. I keep my cd's for two reasons: one, because there may be better technology down the road for ripping them, (probably not but few of us are clairvoyant), and two because of the artwork and notes. btw, if you use an outboard HD the backup can be stored elsewhere.
anyway, I wouldn't imagine cd's going the way of cassettes, but more like vinyl.

werd · « **Reply #18 on:** 2 Feb 2010, 05:19 pm »

Quote from: Daedalus Audio on 2 Feb 2010, 05:15 pm

once the cd's are ripped it is effortless (and cheap) to back it all up onto a second hard drive. I keep my cd's for two reasons: one, because there may be better technology down the road for ripping them, (probably not but few of us are clairvoyant), and two because of the artwork and notes. btw, if you use an outboard HD the backup can be stored elsewhere.
anyway, I wouldn't imagine cd's going the way of cassettes, but more like vinyl.

Yes i agree with this all, it is very easy. However the general public won't buy into. For you and I it is second nature but the there is a large market of cd purchasers who will not do this. And i mean they will give up on buying music even. This is why i think cds will be around.

turkey · « **Reply #19 on:** 2 Feb 2010, 05:23 pm »

Quote from: werd on 2 Feb 2010, 05:19 pm

Yes i agree with this all, it is very easy. However the general public won't buy into. For you and I it is second nature but the there is a large market of cd purchasers who will not do this. And i mean they will give up on buying music even. This is why i think cds will be around.

The success of Apple with the iTunes Store says that the general public _will_ buy into this.