I-tunes Cover Art problem

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Housteau

I-tunes Cover Art problem
« on: 19 Jan 2010, 06:26 pm »
I have no trouble adding cover art when it cannot be found automatically. That assumes I am adding it to either an AIF or WAV file format collection of songs.  I have started to load in some 24/96 files grouped into common folders from recordings I have personally made.  They load in and play just fine, but it will not allow cover art to be added to them.  It looks like it is taking it, but it never shows up.

Also, the song order gets all jumbled up from how I organized it within the file folders that I load into Itunes.  That doesn't bother me so much by itself, but I haven't found a way to reorganize that song order once loaded in.  Is there a trick to this?

I am using Amarra, but I don't think that has an effect on this.

Housteau

Re: I-tunes Cover Art problem
« Reply #1 on: 20 Jan 2010, 10:49 pm »
Nobody else has noticed this issue?

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Re: I-tunes Cover Art problem
« Reply #2 on: 20 Jan 2010, 11:04 pm »
If you are using iTunes on an Apple computer, have you tried the Amazon Art widget?:  http://www.widget-foundry.com/widgets/amazonart.htm

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Re: I-tunes Cover Art problem
« Reply #3 on: 20 Jan 2010, 11:06 pm »
Assuming you are ripping/importing to a WAV file, that is correct. You cannot add or modify the artwork to a WAV file in iTunes regardless of sample/bit rates.

Housteau

Re: I-tunes Cover Art problem
« Reply #4 on: 20 Jan 2010, 11:26 pm »
I have not tried the widget.  I am out of town now, but will look into that when I get back.

Crimson.  I am able to add art to WAV files without any problem, assuming that they are 44.1.  I can even add my own photos to collections of my own recorded WAV files.  However, it will not let me do that with 24/96.

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Re: I-tunes Cover Art problem
« Reply #5 on: 20 Jan 2010, 11:48 pm »
That's odd. I just ripped a track off a compilation disc (no name, artist, album info) as a 16/44.1 WAV file and when I go to add artwork, both the artwork and lyrics tabs are grayed out. Won't let me do it. What version of iTunes and OS are you running, and are your files stored internally or externally??

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Re: I-tunes Cover Art problem
« Reply #6 on: 21 Jan 2010, 12:20 pm »
That's odd. I just ripped a track off a compilation disc (no name, artist, album info) as a 16/44.1 WAV file and when I go to add artwork, both the artwork and lyrics tabs are grayed out. Won't let me do it. What version of iTunes and OS are you running, and are your files stored internally or externally??

I just purchased my first Mac Mini and I am very new to Macs in general.  It has the latest operating system and the latest version of Itunes.  I have not tried to add art to an individual track.  I have been adding it to the Get Info tab for the entire folder holding the individual files.

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Re: I-tunes Cover Art problem
« Reply #7 on: 23 Jan 2010, 02:07 am »
I've been able to add artwork no problem to files in 24/96, but they are stored as ALAC (apple lossless).  Don't know about it being a .wav, but seems like that mis the issue, not the resolution.

On the track ordering, here is what I did.  Go into the folder in your library (in the OS, not in iTunes), and add numbers to the track names, e.g.  for tracks with titles xxx, yyy, zzzz you would change them to "01 xxx, 02 yyy, 03 zzz".  You also need to open the info window for each track individually in iTunes, and number it correctly, e.g. track 2 of 15.  It will probably show the track titles in iTunes as now including the 01, 02 etc. text.  In iTunes, delete those numbers from the track title.  They remain in the library folder, but should now not display in iTunes.

That worked for me.

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Re: I-tunes Cover Art problem
« Reply #8 on: 23 Jan 2010, 11:53 am »
Thank you.

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Re: I-tunes Cover Art problem
« Reply #9 on: 7 Feb 2010, 05:35 pm »
Thanks to Geoff (silverlight) I have discovered the most wonderfully complete cover art solution for those of us who use WAV files (because despite arguments to the contrary, WAV files cannot accept cover art dragged in via iTunes).  It also works on all formats, so feel free to try it there too. 

Anyway, it's called Cover Art by Jacob Weber, can be found here
http://www.jacobweber.com/coverArt

and requires you to do some setup that, at first seems kludgy, but is simple once accomplished.  Just follow the readme instructions (which include getting or confirming you have the right version of python, and requires a sign up for Amazon web services).  What this python app does is intercept iTunes "get artwork" calls and creates a web page where all your unadorned albums will be listed.  Click on the album name and Amazon Web Services will present you with various sizes it has found.  Pick them, then run iTunes "get artwork" again and all will be loaded!  Very cool. 

Housteau

Re: I-tunes Cover Art problem
« Reply #10 on: 7 Feb 2010, 06:12 pm »
Thanks to Geoff (silverlight) I have discovered the most wonderfully complete cover art solution for those of us who use WAV files (because despite arguments to the contrary, WAV files cannot accept cover art dragged in via iTunes).  It also works on all formats, so feel free to try it there too. 

Anyway, it's called Cover Art by Jacob Weber, can be found here
http://www.jacobweber.com/coverArt

Thank you.  I am out of town, but will try that once I get back. 

However, your firsts statement is written as an absolute, which in my case it has not been.  I admit that I am completely new to Macs and to using Itunes within a Mac, but I have been able to add art to WAV files as long as they are 44.1.  These files have been from standard CD rips.  Will it work for all WAV files all the time?  I don't know, I have only needed to do a few and some of those were non-CD ripped WAV files.

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Re: I-tunes Cover Art problem
« Reply #11 on: 7 Feb 2010, 06:56 pm »
Thank you.  I am out of town, but will try that once I get back. 

However, your firsts statement is written as an absolute, which in my case it has not been.  I admit that I am completely new to Macs and to using Itunes within a Mac, but I have been able to add art to WAV files as long as they are 44.1.  These files have been from standard CD rips.  Will it work for all WAV files all the time?  I don't know, I have only needed to do a few and some of those were non-CD ripped WAV files.

Well, you are luckier than I (and most who do WAV).  Are you sure you aren't meaning AIFF?  Anyway, if you have WAV cover art metadata issues then this application is very nice.

Housteau

Re: I-tunes Cover Art problem
« Reply #12 on: 7 Feb 2010, 07:03 pm »
Well, you are luckier than I (and most who do WAV).  Are you sure you aren't meaning AIFF?  Anyway, if you have WAV cover art metadata issues then this application is very nice.

I bought the Mac Mini specifically to use Amarra.  All of my rips using the Mac have indeed been AIFF.  The WAV files were ones I had done previously on a PC and I had imported them to the Mini.

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Re: I-tunes Cover Art problem
« Reply #13 on: 7 Feb 2010, 07:24 pm »
The WAV files were ones I had done previously on a PC and I had imported them to the Mini.

..and you are saying that, on the Mini, in MAC iTunes, you can modify or add cover art to those WAV files/folders?  When you get back you need to send us your process cuz it's been the holy grail to be able to do this manually.  That's why this python app is so valuable IMHO. 

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Re: I-tunes Cover Art problem
« Reply #14 on: 7 Feb 2010, 09:05 pm »
..and you are saying that, on the Mini, in MAC iTunes, you can modify or add cover art to those WAV files/folders?  When you get back you need to send us your process cuz it's been the holy grail to be able to do this manually.  That's why this python app is so valuable IMHO.

That is correct.  Now, on my PC I could not do it.  On the Mini I just open the Get Info tab for the entire folder.  From there I am able to drag in and place the art right on its square.  I can do the same thing with high resolution WAV files, but with them once I close that tab out, the art is not on the folder in Itunes.  But, with standard 44.1 WAV files the art remains.  I have not tried adding art to individual WAV tracks.

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Re: I-tunes Cover Art problem
« Reply #15 on: 7 Feb 2010, 10:04 pm »
I have been able to get Cover Art 1.41 + Python 2.64 working on my Vista 64 PC and it will search Amazon or the Internet for covers, but I have not been able to get it to use a local .jpg, .gif or .bmp that I specify.
 
Has anyone been able to do this?  It says the path/filename that I specify has been "Saved", but it does not show the artwork, and when I tell iTunes to Get Album Artwork for the selected songs, nothing happens.
 
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Re: I-tunes Cover Art problem
« Reply #16 on: 7 Feb 2010, 10:07 pm »
That is correct.  Now, on my PC I could not do it.  On the Mini I just open the Get Info tab for the entire folder.  From there I am able to drag in and place the art right on its square.  I can do the same thing with high resolution WAV files, but with them once I close that tab out, the art is not on the folder in Itunes.  But, with standard 44.1 WAV files the art remains.  I have not tried adding art to individual WAV tracks.

I've also been able to add album art to wav files on my Mac; for whatever reason I'm not able to do it for an individual track, but as mentioned above, if I do for the whole album (with the 'get info' option), I can drag local jpg's into the album art box.....now sometimes the album art is only added/displayed for the 1st track on the album (?)...

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Re: I-tunes Cover Art problem
« Reply #17 on: 7 Feb 2010, 10:10 pm »
I have been able to get Cover Art 1.41 + Python 2.64 working on my Vista 64 PC and it will search Amazon or the Internet for covers, but I have not been able to get it to use a local .jpg, .gif or .bmp that I specify.
 
Has anyone been able to do this?  It says the path/filename that I specify has been "Saved", but it does not show the artwork, and when I tell iTunes to Get Album Artwork for the selected songs, nothing happens.
 
Steve

Geoff wrote an incredible word doc primer on using both the python coverArt app and iTunify (to tag WAV files).  Although i haven't tried local images here's what Geoff wrote:
9)   TIP 2: In addition to ensuring a compatible image file type (I haven’t gone through all of them), if you’re uploading local files, they must have unique names or I’ve noticed they will not be processed by the server

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Re: I-tunes Cover Art problem
« Reply #18 on: 7 Feb 2010, 10:36 pm »
Geoff wrote an incredible word doc primer on using both the python coverArt app and iTunify (to tag WAV files).

I have tried jpg/gif/bmp formats and they all had unique names.  Is this document of Geoff's published somewhere in this forum?
 
Steve

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Re: I-tunes Cover Art problem
« Reply #19 on: 7 Feb 2010, 10:42 pm »
No, PM him.