Need Quick Adice on UPS Situation

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ajzepp

Need Quick Adice on UPS Situation
« on: 12 Nov 2009, 07:57 pm »
I recently sold my Mapletree preamp to a fellow AC'er, but the power supply was damaged during shipping. Apparently UPS showed up at the buyer's house today wanting to take the damaged portion for further evaluation. Has anyone ever allowed them to do this, and is this a good idea??? I'd be more comfortable if they just took pics or sent an evaluator to the house, cause they've already done enough damage as it is.

Anyone have experience with this??

Wayner

Re: Need Quick Adice on UPS Situation
« Reply #1 on: 12 Nov 2009, 08:55 pm »
I don't see that there is much choice if the situation is going to get resolved. I'd take a picture of it before they took it away. That's all I got. Good luck.

Wayner

Will2

Re: Need Quick Adice on UPS Situation
« Reply #2 on: 12 Nov 2009, 10:03 pm »
I've heard they want to take it away so they prevent the person from collecting insurance as well as selling off the damaged piece.  I believe some have successfully resisted their taking the piece away until receiving the insurance money.  Sounds wise to me, but I hope someone with first hand experience comes in and posts.

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Re: Need Quick Adice on UPS Situation
« Reply #3 on: 12 Nov 2009, 10:17 pm »
We have daily UPS pickup and delivery and rarely have any issues with them.  Horribly badly packed incoming stuff from clients is another matter.

However, it is normal UPS policy to pick up and inspect equipment damaged in shipment.  They will want to inspect the shipping carton and packing materials too.  A claim may (rightfully) be rejected if the packing material is inadequte.  We tell our clients to ship to us packed so that the equipment will survive being kicked down a very long flight of stairs. If the buyer has disposed of the packing material before the unit is inspected, it is likely that a claim will be rejected.

Anyway, since the shipper (you) paid for the insurance on the package, you will be the one that gets reimbursed for the damage or replacement cost.  You then reimburse the buyer when the claim is paid.  After inspection, the unit will be returned to the shipper (you) generally, unless it can be repaired by simply sending out a replacement part.  In our case the most common damage (and rare) is a faceplate corner bent and UPS normally lets the buyer keep the unit while we just send them a new faceplate which with our stuff is easy to replace.

If the unit is totaled, the UPS has the right to keep the piece after essentially paying you for it.  Often however they do not exercise that right.

The buyer needs to cooperate with UPS and let them take the piece for inspection.  The buyer should take pictures of it, as any further damage caused while in the UPS system must be reimbursed too.

Simply look at it as you sold the unit to UPS assuming the claim goes through and deal with and take care of the buyer accordingly.

Best luck in resolving this.

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Frank Van Alstine


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Re: Need Quick Adice on UPS Situation
« Reply #4 on: 13 Nov 2009, 12:18 am »
It is always a good thing to remember that UPS will not insure over a few hundred dollars if you are shipping in a "used" box.I am talking the folks in brown,not the UPS store.If i go to the UPS facility with a high ticket item i am going to spend a few bucks to buy a new box.They will ship your used box, but they will not sell you high dollar insurance.Please report back on your claim! Good Luck! We can all benefit from this information.

droht

Re: Need Quick Adice on UPS Situation
« Reply #5 on: 13 Nov 2009, 01:09 am »
My shipping guy warns sternly against UPS because he says they will look for any and every way to get out of a claim.  I would think you need to comply with their wishes but photograph the item before you turn it over for sure. 

In almost all circumstances I now pay for the shipping store to pack my items; usually just the outter box over the original box, just to make sure there is no question about adequacy of packaging.

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Re: Need Quick Adice on UPS Situation
« Reply #6 on: 13 Nov 2009, 02:14 am »
My shipping guy warns sternly against UPS because he says they will look for any and every way to get out of a claim.   


That is standard for any insurer.

droht

Re: Need Quick Adice on UPS Situation
« Reply #7 on: 13 Nov 2009, 04:47 am »
My shipping guy warns sternly against UPS because he says they will look for any and every way to get out of a claim.   


That is standard for any insurer.

Well, my shipping guy finds Fed-Ex to be pretty fair when looking at a claim.  He finds UPS to be not as fair.  I trust this guy.  We do a lot of business, and he treats me well.  YMMV. 

ajzepp

Re: Need Quick Adice on UPS Situation
« Reply #8 on: 13 Nov 2009, 07:53 am »
Thanks, guys....much appreciated! I'll post back when there is resolution to this issue.