Another Problem With BCD-1

Robert D · « **on:** 12 Oct 2009, 02:44 pm »

For some Reason The BCD-1 does not want to play 1 CD out of the 2
The CD is called The Spinners a one kind of love affair. The anthology

DISK 1 the BCD-1 does not see the CD ?? The BCD-1 is trying to read the Cd and then goes to Error?.
When I advance the CD to next track Next Track I get Error as well on the BCD-1 Display

DISK 2 works Great

I tried the 1st CD in My NAD Cd_Player and it Works Fine?.

Any Help would be Great

Daniel Datchev · « **Reply #1 on:** 12 Oct 2009, 03:30 pm »

Hi Robert D,
I have such CDs. Try to play track 2 then backward to access track 1.
Such disk have program to access some links in Internet.
Daniel

James Tanner · « **Reply #2 on:** 12 Oct 2009, 05:09 pm »

Hi Robert,

The BCD-1 is a REDBOOK 'only' CD player (for design reasons) and some CD's have a DATA track (pictures/video etc.) on the first cut. A REDBOOK only CD Player will not see the DATA track on start up.

james

Robert D · « **Reply #3 on:** 12 Oct 2009, 06:12 pm »

Daniel I'll try track 2 and then track 1

feed back on its way

Robert

Robert D · « **Reply #4 on:** 12 Oct 2009, 06:19 pm »

Daniel Nope does not work .

James and Daniel the CD were are talking about The Spinners one kind of love affair.
I forgot to mentition used to play CD 1 on My BCD-1 Double ouch !

Robert
I'll will post the errors on the display of the BCD-1

James Tanner · « **Reply #5 on:** 12 Oct 2009, 06:29 pm »

Quote from: Robert D on 12 Oct 2009, 06:19 pm

Daniel Nope does not work .

James and Daniel the CD were are talking about The Spinners one kind of love affair.
I forgot to mentition used to play CD 1 on My BCD-1 Double ouch !

Robert
I'll will post the errors on the display of the BCD-1

Hi Robert,

If the CD has a DATA track it will NOT play on a REDBOOK CD player.
If it played before then there must be a problem with track one - maybe needs cleaning?

james

Robert D · « **Reply #6 on:** 12 Oct 2009, 06:36 pm »

James, the BCD-1 does not see any Track of the Cd 1

Track 1 through 14 example

TRACK 1 ERROR
TRACK 2 ERROR

James what would you like me to Clean the Cd with
warm water.
Robert

James Tanner · « **Reply #7 on:** 12 Oct 2009, 06:38 pm »

Is this the only CD having a problem?

james

Robert D · « **Reply #8 on:** 12 Oct 2009, 06:46 pm »

Yes James
The Only Cd that used to play that will not any More
PS... My Bryston Set is Not Connected in anyway to the Internet
I call it a Stand alone set up

See Below
I found a Pic on The Net

Robert D · « **Reply #9 on:** 12 Oct 2009, 06:59 pm »

James, Nancy Tells me it used to Skip the last 2 tracks on Disk 1 ....
is there some kind Recognition Software that is loaded in the BCD-1 that will detect a problem with the Cd ?

Thats why I ask the question why would it play in my Nad C542 and not the BCD-1

Robert

James Tanner · « **Reply #10 on:** 12 Oct 2009, 07:14 pm »

Hi Robert,

Different drives and error correction software will handle different discs in different ways so you may get slight performance differences from player to player.

I usually find a good cleaning will usually help improve the playback.

james

Robert D · « **Reply #11 on:** 12 Oct 2009, 07:19 pm »

Quote from: James Tanner on 12 Oct 2009, 07:14 pm

Hi Robert,

Different drives and error correction software will handle different discs in different ways so you may get slight performance differences from player to player.

I usually find a good cleaning will usually help improve the playback.

james

James, all of my other Cd's are Fine but this one.
I guess the mother inlaw spilt her Brandy on the Cd

James Tanner · « **Reply #12 on:** 12 Oct 2009, 07:23 pm »

Quote from: Robert D on 12 Oct 2009, 07:19 pm

Quote from: James Tanner on 12 Oct 2009, 07:14 pm
Hi Robert,

Different drives and error correction software will handle different discs in different ways so you may get slight performance differences from player to player.

I usually find a good cleaning will usually help improve the playback.

james
James, all of my other Cd's are Fine but this one.
I guess the mother inlaw spilt her Brandy on the Cd

james

Robert D · « **Reply #13 on:** 12 Oct 2009, 07:26 pm »

What Cleaner do you recommend?

Example On My Pioneer Elite Pro-111FD
I only use warm Water and a Micro Fiber very Soft Cloth and a Buff

Robert

James Tanner · « **Reply #14 on:** 12 Oct 2009, 07:52 pm »

Windex?

james

Daniel Datchev · « **Reply #15 on:** 12 Oct 2009, 08:02 pm »

Hi Robert D,
between all my CDs there are only three which has the same problem.
Aftre loading if you press play it will display error. These discs are describe as enhansed and contained a run up program. In my case is iTunes. You can try to load the CD on your computer and see if there are other files than audio.
Daniel

Mad Mr H · « **Reply #16 on:** 12 Oct 2009, 08:22 pm »

If of any help to you.....

CD's play from the inside out.

So track1 is at the center.

I believe that prior to track one is a "track" that holds time data for the disc - This part I dont fully understand how it works BUT damage to this part of the disc will cause errors.

Others may be able to help more or correct me.

Take care,

Andy.

Wayner · « **Reply #17 on:** 12 Oct 2009, 08:54 pm »

At the beginning of each CD is a TOC or Table Of Contents. If this is damaged, the player will not know where to find and index the beginning and end of each song selection. CDs are susceptible of manufacturing defects as well. Examine the disc for surface abrasions. The aluminum that is vapor depositioned to the polycarbonate may also have a flaw in it, but that really was an early days QC problem. Hold the CD up to a bright lite and see if there are pin holes thru the read layer at the center. Does the CD play in your computer?

Wayner

RandyH · « **Reply #18 on:** 12 Oct 2009, 09:36 pm »

If your computer can read the CD you might try making a copy and see if the BCD-1 will read the copy. I have a couple of CDs in my collection that have scratches such that they create playing problems with my primary CD player. However the CD drive on my computer is able to read them fine and likewise make good copies. These copies play fine on my CD player. This will only work if the source of the problem is a physical defect or damage to the CD itself. I've owned a number of CD players in my life and have learned that some are much more tolerant of damaged or scratched CDs than others.

Robert D · « **Reply #19 on:** 12 Oct 2009, 10:39 pm »

Here is one Pic

See Below

Like I said It Works in My Nad Cd Player
I'll make a copy on my Computer and post some feed back

Robert