Activated Carbon as an absorber; ACOUSTIC FIELDS products

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Carl V

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http://www.acousticfields.com/1.html?sm=73589

I recently heard a very nice Home music room which had nice
gear but also of note had a very nice Acoustic's set-up from a
company I was not aware of.

I have used Real Traps, RPG & ASC products in the past to good
effect.

Has anyone heard more about this company?
Their site & products appear to be good.
They also cite 3rd party testing as GIK & Real Traps do/have done.


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Re: Activated Carbon as an absorber; ACOUSTIC FIELDS products
« Reply #1 on: 12 Oct 2009, 01:52 am »
looks interesting but very pricey...

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Re: Activated Carbon as an absorber; ACOUSTIC FIELDS products
« Reply #2 on: 12 Oct 2009, 10:10 am »
Activated carbon has tons of surface area on a microscopic level and so primarily is used for higher levels of water filtration.  Don't know why it should be particularly good for sound wave absorption.  As a diffusion media its much too small of texture.

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Re: Activated Carbon as an absorber; ACOUSTIC FIELDS products
« Reply #3 on: 12 Oct 2009, 12:42 pm »
They also cite 3rd party testing as GIK & Real Traps do/have done.

I don't usually comment on products from other vendors, but I see a few things on that company's site that need to be clarified.

"Riverbank test results showed absorption data
below 40hz. They certify at 40hz. and above."

This is simply not true. No US labs that I know of are certified to report absorption below 80 Hz, and most are certified down to only 100 Hz. However, labs will gladly tell you what they measured below 100 Hz, even though it's not necessarily accurate. In that case they will not report the absorption as coefficients, but rather as sabins.

But here's the kicker:

"Our test data, using the same test samples as
Riverbank, in the same size room and at the same
test pressure levels, produced this data."

As I read this, what they're saying is "We didn't actually test these bass traps at Riverbank. We used a normal room of about the same size and tested ourself."

I could be wrong, but that's how I read it. Maybe someone here can email Acoustic Fields and ask for clarification, or invite them to join this discussion.

The best way to assess comparative absorption of different products, as Acoustic Fields attempts to do on their data page, is with room testing software as described in this article from Sound & Vibration magazine:

Alternative Test Methods for Acoustic Treatment Products

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Re: Activated Carbon as an absorber; ACOUSTIC FIELDS products
« Reply #4 on: 12 Oct 2009, 02:22 pm »
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But here's the kicker:

"Our test data, using the same test samples as
Riverbank, in the same size room and at the same
test pressure levels, produced this data."

As I read this, what they're saying is "We didn't actually test these bass traps at Riverbank. We used a normal room of about the same size and tested ourself."

Yes, I was curious about that as well.

I'll e-mail them with some questions.

Thanks