Beatlemania....2009

bprice2 · « **Reply #40 on:** 13 Sep 2009, 03:30 am »

Quote from: ted_b on 12 Sep 2009, 05:55 pm

Quote from: orthobiz on 12 Sep 2009, 05:36 pm
Quote from: zybar on 12 Sep 2009, 04:20 pm
I can just grabbed all 14 albums from Target for $150 after tax and getting $35 in Target gift cards.

Is the box set worth another $30-40 over buying the individual cd's?

I really don't care that much about the packaging, but if it is really good and cool, maybe I would spend the extra bucks.

Just looking for some opinions...

Thanks,

George

I don't think the QuickTime movies are on the individual (stereo) disks. Are they?

Paul

No they are not.

They are. A video was the first thing that came up on the screen when I put the disc in to rip Abbey Road. Perhaps the other individual discs do not?

ted_b · « **Reply #41 on:** 13 Sep 2009, 03:43 am »

I'm sorry, my bad. Yes each stereo disc has the Quicktime minidoc. The box set has a DVD compilation of them, which is not included in the individual ones. Duh!

lonewolfny42 · « **Reply #42 on:** 13 Sep 2009, 03:48 am »

Of the 7 Cd's that I purchased (see past post)....only one does not have a Mini-Documentary on it....that would be the Past Masters Cd.

I didn't want all of the Cd's....just my selected few.

They are worth buying..... a job well done...I'm happy about that....cause sometimes things DON"T improve after a remaster.

Yeah,yeah,....yeah.

konut · « **Reply #43 on:** 13 Sep 2009, 10:37 am »

Quote from: lonewolfny42 on 13 Sep 2009, 03:48 am

Yeah,yeah,....yeah.

Not only +1, but X2!

Levi · « **Reply #44 on:** 17 Sep 2009, 02:42 am »

+1

Today, I fired up my 1969 McIntosh MC-60 tube mono-block. Listening to "The Beatles" also known as "The White Album" originally released Nov 22, 1968 is like a "flash back".

I am in the process of ripping them all in my HDD for a non-stop playback.

BTW, Thanks Wes for letting me borrow your Audience AU24 cables. aa

--Levi

firedog · « **Reply #45 on:** 19 Sep 2009, 10:29 am »

Quote from: Levi on 11 Sep 2009, 05:07 am

I heard they are coming up with Remasterd LPs! 45g vinyl. That would be awesome!

I made it up. Vinyl fans keep the faith!

BTW, at one of the pre-release press conferences, the question of a vinyl re-issue was asked. The answer was that it is mostly a question of when, not if, vinyl re-issues will be done.

Then the question becomes: will they use the original master tapes, or make a new remix or remaster from the 192k tapes they've made from the existing tapes. They've apparently transferred all the tapes (including individual recording tracks) in the vault to 192K

Rocket · « **Reply #46 on:** 20 Sep 2009, 03:52 am »

Hi,

I bought 'Revolver' yesterday and I have had a good listen on my system. The cd remastering is pretty good and it is quite listenable on a good system. One thing I did not like is the stereo mix because it is a bit extreme. At one point I thought my left speaker was disconnected.

Am I better off purchasing the mono boxset as opposed to stereo? Has anyone made a comparison between mono and stereo mixes?

Regards

Rod

mcallister · « **Reply #47 on:** 20 Sep 2009, 11:27 am »

Quote from: Rocket on 20 Sep 2009, 03:52 am

Hi,

I bought 'Revolver' yesterday and I have had a good listen on my system. The cd remastering is pretty good and it is quite listenable on a good system. One thing I did not like is the stereo mix because it is a bit extreme. At one point I thought my left speaker was disconnected.

Am I better off purchasing the mono boxset as opposed to stereo? Has anyone made a comparison between mono and stereo mixes?

Regards

Rod

I have this problem often with the Beatles stereo mixes. Martin definitely had a different way of placing things in the stereo spectrum. I do like though as it keeps things fresh from most other things I listen to with a few exceptions.

Vinnie R. · « **Reply #48 on:** 20 Sep 2009, 06:10 pm »

This might be a dumb question, but:

How do the new remastered Beatles albums compare in recording quality to the Beatles "Love" album that came out a few years ago? I understand that "Love" is not true to the originals because they added effects and blending, etc. - but didn't they also put some good effort into cleaning up the recordings with "Love." ? I thought it sounded pretty good (especially on Vinyl!) - so if the new Remasters are even better, well that is awesome and I'll need to check them out!

Thanks,

Vinnie

ted_b · « **Reply #49 on:** 20 Sep 2009, 06:16 pm »

Vinnie,'
The Love project was a complete remix AND remaster, along with Giles Martin given carte blanche to do anything and everything with the catalog. The mash-ups are somewhat debatable but listening to the 5.1 remixes of Walrus, Day In The Life, Revolution, etc (those songs which are the least futzed with, content-wise) is quite revelatory and exciting. In contrast, the new remasters don't change one mix, one vocal, one iota of the image...just cleaned up and highlighted. Some may argue that simply the bass and treble were pushed higher but I disagree. On songs like Long, Long, Long (White Album) the result is a brand-new look into this great Harrsion song. For the first time the details are unearthed. Other songs are less of a discovery, but good overall. But NOTHING like what Love would have done.

Gimme the new remasters in 24/192 (straight off the master digital tapes) and I'm a happy man.

Vinnie R. · « **Reply #50 on:** 20 Sep 2009, 06:39 pm »

Hi Ted,

Thanks for the reply.

Quote

The Love project was a complete remix AND remaster, along with Giles Martin given carte blanche to do anything and everything with the catalog.

Strictly speaking now for 2-channel (not 5.1):

Even though the songs on Love are remixed (again, with their added special effects and such), would you say that they sound better (in terms of recording quality - not being authentic to the original) than the same songs from the new Remastered albums? Or is this something not that simple to answer and too subjective?

Thanks again,

Vinnie

konut · « **Reply #51 on:** 20 Sep 2009, 09:36 pm »

To my ears, the Love and remasters are cut from the same proverbial clothe, in that the original masters were transferred to digital without much fooling around. Love was derived from any and all tracks that were laid down by GM and the Beatles. Nothing was added that did not originally reside on one of the tapes 'from the vault'. There were no "special effects", only putting together tracks that had either never been heard(as in alternate takes), putting tracks together from totally disparate songs and albums, or playing tracks backwards. What Love and the remasters have in common is an uncompromising faithfulness to the masters in that no adjustments had to be made to EQ and dynamics in order to 'fit in the groove' as such compromises have to be made to ANY vinyl product. They also share the pristine quality that can only be had direct from the master, as in, no intermediary 'mix down' tapes were necessary to produce a final product.

Vinnie R. · « **Reply #52 on:** 21 Sep 2009, 01:48 pm »

Hi ted_b and konut,

Thanks for your input on this!

Vinnie

funkmonkey · « **Reply #53 on:** 3 Oct 2009, 08:53 am »

Just picked up, and ripped to FLAC, Abbey Road, today. Curiosity got the better of me and I had to hear the remastered sound... I listened to the whole disc from the first note of Come Together to the last note of Her Majesty. What a great, great album (oops er... disc). Really took me back to the first time I heard the LP when I was just a kid.

Improved clarity, and impact on all tracks. Thoroughly enjoyed my listen today. Totally worth purchasing again.

Now if that next shipment of thew Mono box ever goes out, I will be really happy. I still plan to get the White Album, Let it Be, Sergeant Pepper, and perhaps Revolver in strereo...

Rocket · « **Reply #54 on:** 4 Oct 2009, 12:44 am »

Hi,

I bought 'Abbey Road' yesterday and listened to the disc last night. It is very good and I like it much better than the stereo version of 'Revolver' because I found the mix too extreme for my tastes i.e. stereo mix.

Looks like I may get the mono versions of the cd's in the future.

Regards

Rod

ted_b · « **Reply #55 on:** 4 Oct 2009, 12:52 am »

Quote from: Rocket on 4 Oct 2009, 12:44 am

Hi,

I bought 'Abbey Road' yesterday and listened to the disc last night. It is very good and I like it much better than the stereo version of 'Revolver' because I found the mix too extreme for my tastes i.e. stereo mix.

Looks like I may get the mono versions of the cd's in the future.

Regards

Rod

In what way too extreme? The mix is no different than the 87 cd's...again, these weren''t remixed, just remastered.

Rocket · « **Reply #56 on:** 4 Oct 2009, 01:17 am »

Hi Ted,

The stereo mix itself isn't what I am used to because of the separation channels i.e. music coming from one speaker only on some music. Initially when I heard the first track off 'Revolver' I thought one of my speakers was disconnected.

'Abbey Road' stereo mix sounds more conventional to me because the channels have less stereo channel separation. Just my opinion though.

Regards

Rod

ted_b · « **Reply #57 on:** 4 Oct 2009, 09:40 pm »

Rocket,
Please don't take offense to this..but..in the 43 yrs since it's been released you are telling me that you've never heard Revolver in stereo before?

Never heard the start of Taxman that caught us all off guard in August 1966, and has for 43 yrs since?

Wow. I'm amazed...and kinda jealous.

Rocket · « **Reply #58 on:** 5 Oct 2009, 09:31 am »

Hi Ted,

Well no. I never bought 'revolver' on lp and I initially bought the cd version of 'abbey road' in the 80's but it sound pretty poor and I've never bothered since then. Obviously I've heard the song on the radio but that is it.

Regards

Rod

vinyl_guy · « **Reply #59 on:** 2 Nov 2009, 02:36 am »

Between yesterday and today, I have listened to all of the remastered stereo mixes except Yellow Submarine. The quality is quite good and the sound is so much better than the 1987 CDs. A lot of music was missing in the 1987 versions. I also dumped the 1987 versions I had imported to iTunes and replaced them with the 2009 remastered versions.

Can a remastered vinyl version be that far behind?

Laura