Tang Bang W8-1772 Impressions.

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Bob_Brines

Tang Bang W8-1772 Impressions.
« on: 29 Aug 2009, 07:17 pm »
This post is cross posted on several forums. This is not were I normally post.

I have run T/S tests on a pair of 1772's using a Smith & Larson Speaker Tester. The drivers were broken in for one hour a Xmax. Average of three runs each for the two drivers are:

Re   ohms   7.28996
Fs   Hz   42.59512
Zmax   ohms   28.85236
Qes      0.44508
Qms      1.31602
Qts      0.33256
Le   mH   0.04414
Diam   mm   165.5
Sd   mm^2   21512.25
Vas   L   72.76948
BL   N/A   7.4432
Mms   g   12.6453
Cms   uM/N   1106.912
Kms   N/M   905.7046
Rms   R   2.57074
Efficiency   %   1.1911
Sensitivity   dB(1 watt)   92.76138
Sensitivity   dB(2.83 volt)   93.166

The S&L tester does a constant current test, so the numbers will differ somewhat from testers that do constant voltage. The results are not surprising. the Vas lower than published is what I normally see, although I would have expected Qts to be somewhat higher than published rather than lower.



Nothing untoward here. I won't try to explain the glitch at 150Hz for now. I am impressed that there is no reflection off of the surround at ~1000Hz. That big old aluminum phase plug plus (I presume) a shorting ring very effectively kills any impedance rise.

One thing of note: The 1772's suspension is either not progressive or only weakly so. Unlike most Fostex drivers that can't be over-driven to Xsus, it is very easy to bounce the TB off of the back plate. Some care will be required is high SLP low frequency applications.

I will mount these drivers in my FT-2000 cabinet (MLTL). I won't be testing on an EIC baffle, so my FR plots may well have some box defraction artifacts in them, but so be it. It may be a few days before I report back.

Bob

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Re: Tang Bang W8-1772 Impressions.
« Reply #1 on: 29 Aug 2009, 11:59 pm »
Hi Bob,

Thanks for posting this.  And thanks for the comments on the non-progressive suspension system; I hadn't realized that.

The spec sheet I have on the 1772 indicates Qes of .36, Qms of 1.02, and Qts of .27 - which would mean your Qts is indeed higher than the published spec, as you would have expected.

Here's a link:

http://www.tb-speaker.com/detail/1230_04/w8-1772.htm

Duke

Bob_Brines

Re: Tang Bang W8-1772 Impressions.
« Reply #2 on: 30 Aug 2009, 02:52 am »
The spec sheet I have on the 1772 indicates Qes of .36, Qms of 1.02, and Qts of .27 - which would mean your Qts is indeed higher than the published spec, as you would have expected.

Here's a link:

http://www.tb-speaker.com/detail/1230_04/w8-1772.htm

Duke

My bad. I misread the flier.

Bob

Bob_Brines

Re: Tang Bang W8-1772 Impressions.
« Reply #3 on: 1 Sep 2009, 07:23 pm »
I have done some preliminary listening and done some FR plots. Rather than post to every forum I visit, I will post all further information on the TB W8-1772 at diyAudio/Full Range -- http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150267

Bob