A few of us replaced fairly sophisticated pre/pros like the Integra 9.8 or its twin sibling, the Onkyo Pro 885, with the 3808. At the time it was going for a very good price with a free Blu-Ray player. Daivd (Rydenfan) turned me on to the switcheroo plan, and I was worried I would take a small step back in functionality or certainly sonics. Both were furthest from the truth. In fact, I run a complicated scenario where I have different amps and speakers for 5.1 (dedicated hirez surround music setup) vs 7.1 (different sides and rears for movies) and the 3808, via Quick Select, handles it perfectly, turning on one set, turning off the other and invoking the back surrounds, all while preserving their unique channel trims.