What can be Cryogenically treated?

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What can be Cryogenically treated?
« on: 7 Jun 2009, 08:30 pm »
OK.  I know the obvious:

cables, fuses, outlets, transformers, tubes...

Has anyone done a SSD (solid state drive)?  I know that some have done amps, power conditioners and such.

What have you done?

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Re: What can be Cryogenically treated?
« Reply #1 on: 7 Jun 2009, 09:43 pm »
OK.  I know the obvious:

cables, fuses, outlets, transformers, tubes...

Has anyone done a SSD (solid state drive)?  I know that some have done amps, power conditioners and such.

What have you done?

I would answer you but Josh doesn't like cryo talk in the Lab so I'll pass on answering. Sorry.

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Robin

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Re: What can be Cryogenically treated?
« Reply #2 on: 7 Jun 2009, 10:05 pm »
Really?  Why is that, Robin? The results are quite real and repeatable.

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Re: What can be Cryogenically treated?
« Reply #3 on: 7 Jun 2009, 10:05 pm »
OK.  I know the obvious:

cables, fuses, outlets, transformers, tubes...

Has anyone done a SSD (solid state drive)?  I know that some have done amps, power conditioners and such.

What have you done?

I would answer you but Josh doesn't like cryo talk in the Lab so I'll pass on answering. Sorry.

Cheers,
Robin

jtwrace,

My hat's off to ya' for starting a thread that Robin refuses to extrapolate on.  :lol: :thumb:

Do a quick search of the word "cryoed" here. You'll learn a whole lot if you just sort through the chaff.

Have fun,
Jerry

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Re: What can be Cryogenically treated?
« Reply #4 on: 7 Jun 2009, 10:14 pm »
OK.  I know the obvious:

cables, fuses, outlets, transformers, tubes...

Has anyone done a SSD (solid state drive)?  I know that some have done amps, power conditioners and such.

What have you done?

I would answer you but Josh doesn't like cryo talk in the Lab so I'll pass on answering. Sorry.

Cheers,
Robin

jtwrace,

My hat's off to ya' for starting a thread that Robin refuses to extrapolate on.  :lol: :thumb:

Do a quick search of the word "cryoed" here. You'll learn a whole lot if you just sort through the chaff.

Have fun,
Jerry

FWIW Jerry, the prelude to the Lab is The technical side of audio. How and why our equipment works, construction, and DIY.

Cryogenics is what I would consider a tweak and as such I understand where Josh is coming from. :thumb:

Cheers,
Robin

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Re: What can be Cryogenically treated?
« Reply #5 on: 7 Jun 2009, 11:07 pm »
If someone can tell me where to re-post my question, I will.  I completely understand what Crryo does.  I use cryo parts everyday at work.  BUT that isn't audio related...

anyone?  I thought this would fit "The Lab" perfectly.  Please advise me.

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Re: What can be Cryogenically treated?
« Reply #6 on: 8 Jun 2009, 04:13 pm »
I think the list of what cant be treated would be much smaller..............


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Re: What can be Cryogenically treated?
« Reply #7 on: 9 Jun 2009, 02:52 pm »
I don't recall saying you couldn't discuss cryo in the lab.  I, however, would prefer this not turn into a topic about the merits of cryo.  If you are asking what can and cannot be cryo'd, well that seems appropriate.


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Re: What can be Cryogenically treated?
« Reply #8 on: 9 Jun 2009, 03:07 pm »
Noob question:
Could an entire tube amp be cryo'd? I mean take it off your equipment rack and plop it into the Nitrogen without any preparation.
That would get the tubes, the caps, resistors, chassis, internal wiring, and power cord all in one shot.

Bob

OT: I'd love to try having my lawnmower blades cryo'd.

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Re: What can be Cryogenically treated?
« Reply #9 on: 9 Jun 2009, 03:39 pm »
Entire amps have been cryo'ed. I have had a couple of SB3's cryo'ed as an experiment.

I would suggest you stay away from trying to have anything that uses adhesives cryo'ed. I have seen some speaker drivers fall apart coming out of a cryo tank.

A good cryo run takes about 3-4 days. It slowly (roughly 24 hours) lowers the temps to -300F. Holds for 12 hours or so and then is allow to come up to ambient temp over 2.5 days.

I have quite a few knives that have been cryo'ed. While they do hold an edge longer, they also take a lot more effort to sharpen.

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Re: What can be Cryogenically treated?
« Reply #10 on: 9 Jun 2009, 04:40 pm »
I don't recall saying you couldn't discuss cryo in the lab.  I, however, would prefer this not turn into a topic about the merits of cryo.  If you are asking what can and cannot be cryo'd, well that seems appropriate.

Sorry Josh, you're right it wasn't about cryoing, it was about Bybee's that you spoke of in this thread.

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Guys, if you want to discuss the merits of bybees, please don't use this thread to do it, with all due respect.  Levi was right to share his project, but discussion on bybees belongs elsewhere (one can hope not the lab for my sake). 

Bybees, cryoing,, it's all component tweaks and with your reaction to Bybee's which are used in circuit modification design & diy circuit tweaking much more often than component cryoing is,,, well I just didn't want to post on this subject just to be told it wasn't lab worthy again.

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Re: What can be Cryogenically treated?
« Reply #11 on: 9 Jun 2009, 04:49 pm »
So, back to my origianl post....has anyone done a SSD?

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Re: What can be Cryogenically treated?
« Reply #12 on: 9 Jun 2009, 04:52 pm »
Without mentioning any percieved benefits from component cryoing :dunno: I'll just mention the list of successful full component cryoing that I've had done to my system and leave it at that.

BPT BP2.5 balanced power conditioner
Sunfire Theater Grann 4 processor
2 Butler Audio 3150 tube hybrid amps w/tubes left in (these 3 channel amps have individual solid state circuit boards per channel with a tube output stage)
Trends UD 10.1 USB transport
Empirical Off-Ramp 3 USB transport
Paul Hynes SR3-12 power supply

No list would be complete w/o mentioning unsuccessful cryoing attempts as there is indeed risk involved here.

Music Hall CD-25 CD player (the whole front display case and button controls were glued on, Korean engineering I guess, plus the top of the Phillips transport failed also)

And that's all I have to say about the thread topic "What Can Be Cryogenically Treated?".

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Robin

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Re: What can be Cryogenically treated?
« Reply #13 on: 9 Jun 2009, 04:57 pm »
Wayne, thanks for the information. I didn't know a SB could be cryo'd.

Bob

OT: Can we cryo Robin?

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Re: What can be Cryogenically treated?
« Reply #14 on: 9 Jun 2009, 04:58 pm »
Wayne, thanks for the information. I didn't know a SB could be cryo'd.

Bob

OT: Can we cryo Robin?

You're more than welcome to try Bob, but you'd be wasting your time as my head's about as hard as it's gonna get. :lol:

Cheers,
Robin
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