Pretty good BBQ, Outstanding Cables- a review of sorts

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S Clark

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Danny R drove down yesterday to help with our high school speaker project competition and to eat some barbequed ribs.  Each rib was rubbed generously with Tony's Greek Seasoning and smoked over smoldering mesquite for about 2 hours, then each slab was covered in a basic sauce but with different seasoning. One with white wine, one with habenaro, one with chipolte, and one with Tiger Saucer :drool: :drool: and cooked with low heat for another hour and a half.  I'll let him evaluate the ribs.

I'll however evaluate the cables that he brought for me to listen to. Danny knows that I have been a skeptic about cables for a long time. It's not that I don't have the "faith" that they can make a difference, it's just that I didn't think that I would be able to hear anything other than very subtle differences if any at all.  You see, with tinnitus and pretty major upper frequency loss I really didn't think there would be any reason for to bother.  Now when Danny says something like, "Did you hear that hummingbird just lick his lips after he drank that nectar?", my response is not "Yeah, right  :shake:". I don't doubt for an instant that he really does have golden ears, and I don't... just as I have no doubt that I can hear things in piano recordings that he doesn't pick up on.  It's what happens when your Mom is always yelling "You have only practiced 30 minute, you have another 30 to go young man" for years and years.  So it's not that I can't hear at all, I just thought I knew my limitations. 

....we started with his Electra Cables interconnects for which he is a distributer.  We didn't have to go back and forth, no A-B test needed.  An obvious -yes the correct word is obvious- change occurred in the clarity and air around the guitar work in Patty Larkins "Angels Running".  This is a cd I know by heart-every note.  I was somewhat shaken by the increased clarity and detail that I had been missing.  I had been convinced that interconnects made no real difference. Even the Blue Jeans stuff that replaced the freebies that came with cheap midfi stuff hadn't made much difference, so obviously further exploration of interconnects was a waste of $ for me.  Wrongo! So now I need a set of Electra interconnects.

Danny wasn't through.  He tried to hook up a power cord to my old Moscode 300, but it was hardwired.  Instead he replaced the power cord to my Cambridge Audio cd.  We had just hit play when laughter breaks out behind me.  Danny is doing a wow thing.  I didn't quite know what I was hearing :o.  It seemed almost like a 33.3 RPM record was slowed to 32 RPM.  Things really appeared to happen more slowly. I didn't know at first if I really liked it, and was having a hard time categorizing the changes that were obviously there (there's that word again).  These difference were not subtle, not small.  This was move the decimal stuff. This was like connecting different speakers.  I'll say that again.... this was as different as changing one set of speakers with a different brand.   :o :o :o :idea: :idea:  I was beginning to see the light.  Danny says something like, "Do you want more?" " *%#@* yeah" I think.  We change the power cord again... more wires, thicker gauge.... we hit the Patty Larkin intro.  I've got the controls and 3 seconds in I hit pause.  Danny's laughing.  I'm quivering.  Did I really hear that?  We play it again.  There is an echo to her vocals that defines the recording studio.  There is a depth of soundstage that I had never heard in my system.  The last time I heard something of this magnitude in my house, in my room, was when Gary Dodd hooked up his prototype Battery Pre and I knew that I had to get it.... we changed the cord back to the smaller one. Hit the intro, the eho disappeared and the sound stage collapsed.  We put it back, and there it was again.  We A-B again.  I really didn't need to hear it again.  I knew what I was hearing, I really just couldn't believe it.  A power cord was a major.... key ... component in my system.  I was humbled... a Doubting Thomas made into a believer :bowdown:... and I had to hear it with my own ears in my own system to really get it. My knees are weak, Danny says "Let's press on"  I beg for a break. 
We come back for a last round and Danny hooks up the latest black box, his new line conditioner the Magic Buss.  I should have fairly clean power, out in the country with only my house on the main transformer.  We hit play and Danny laughs like a madman.  He tells me it is just as big as the power cord, that noise has dropped away from that Patty Larkin intro like cleaning the bugs of the windshield of my Goldwing... but this time I don't hear it.  Nada. No difference.  Finally my limitations have caught up with me.  Tinnitus provides a level of background noise that no power conditioner can remove.  I can't hear it, but I have little doubt that he does.  Finally, I'm a believer!  :dance:

I'll order the interconnects and power cable when my system moves to another room and I know the needed lengths. 

This rather long winded review was to show how absolutely floored I was by the difference these Elektra cables make.  There may be better ones out there, but these are going into my system and will probably stay for a while.

William Schuchard

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Re: Pretty good BBQ, Outstanding Cables- a review of sorts
« Reply #1 on: 21 May 2009, 12:46 pm »
Glad to hear that you've been enlightened.  I like to do the same tests with skeptics because you described what they go through perfectly.

My favorite is the power cord.  Even believers in intereconnects are dumbfounded by the differences in power cords.  I was a skeptic too until I accidentally put the wrong power cord back on my Goldmund and my system sounded bad all of a sudden.  It took me two days of wondering what happened until I realized that I might have used the wrong cord.  Put the other one back in and "bingo", the magic was back.

    Bill

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Re: Pretty good BBQ, Outstanding Cables- a review of sorts
« Reply #2 on: 21 May 2009, 02:52 pm »
Hehe, my oldest brother is an electrical engineer.  Years ago when I first got into this stuff I became a believer in cables due to Kimber 4TC speaker wire.  Bro was very skeptical until I plugged the Kimber into one side of his stereo and we listened to several tracks.  His jaw hit the floor as he realized how many details he was missing.  It's been fun enlightening people and bringing the joy back to music listening.

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Re: Pretty good BBQ, Outstanding Cables- a review of sorts
« Reply #3 on: 21 May 2009, 08:50 pm »
The trip was almost worth it just for the barbecue ribs.

The funny part to me when Scott was going to see if he could hear a difference in the change of a power cable was the metal preparation. It was one of those things where I could tell he had decided that he was going to really listen closely and pay great attention for any subtle details. Then it was so obvious that he noticed a difference in seconds. There was the first moments of play with the real power cable in the circuit where he has to be thinking "is this the right song." "I must be on the wrong one..."

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Re: Pretty good BBQ, Outstanding Cables- a review of sorts
« Reply #4 on: 21 May 2009, 11:35 pm »
It was like being ready to listen for the difference in the hum of a male vs. female mosquito, and hearing a Boeing 747 flying low instead.  Not only was it not what I was expecting, I too flustered to even describe what I had heard. :o   :

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Re: Pretty good BBQ, Outstanding Cables- a review of sorts
« Reply #5 on: 22 May 2009, 01:02 am »
Welcome to the dark side Scott. :thumb:

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Re: Pretty good BBQ, Outstanding Cables- a review of sorts
« Reply #6 on: 22 May 2009, 03:05 am »
Sometimes I feel like this is like the red pill and the blue pill scenario from the Matrix.  Everytime I make an upgrade, I find that I just keep chasing that white rabbit further and further down the hole.  I can see why occasionally someone on the circle decides to chuck the whole lot of it and just listen to the music.... but I'm not there yet.  I'm still curious how deep this rabbit hole goes. 

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Re: Pretty good BBQ, Outstanding Cables- a review of sorts
« Reply #7 on: 22 May 2009, 11:45 am »
Cables can help but beware of the little tweaks.  Stick to things that most people agree matter like room-tuning panels and maybe a nice stable rack.

Listen to components that work together and ultimately get out of the way of the music.  It's when you can't stop playing the music because it sounds so damn good that you know you've reached your goal.  :lol:

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Re: Pretty good BBQ, Outstanding Cables- a review of sorts
« Reply #8 on: 22 May 2009, 11:02 pm »
Quick question... power cables also by Electra or something else?

Danny Richie

Re: Pretty good BBQ, Outstanding Cables- a review of sorts
« Reply #9 on: 22 May 2009, 11:27 pm »
Electra Cables is coming out with speaker and power cables now. I have been beta testing them.  :thumb: