Recommendations for inexpensive isolation footers?

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Recommendations for inexpensive isolation footers?
« on: 24 Apr 2009, 04:00 pm »
At the urging of another audiophile I added weight to my Oppo.  Have never noticed improvements with that sort of thing in the past, but a 20 pound concrete paver did wonders.  So now I'm thinking about footers.  My "rack" (a $30 Ikea night stand) is quite solid, the 1/4 inch diameter posts (intended for wheels) are the "spikes", and it rests on a basement concrete slab via pad and commercial carpet.

Obviously I'm not one to "over invest" in this sort of thing, but your suggestions are welcomed.

bacobits1

Re: Recommendations for inexpensive isolation footers?
« Reply #1 on: 24 Apr 2009, 04:56 pm »
I have mentioned before I use the 2"X2" pads at 1.50 each.
They work very well on my glass shelves. YMMV
With your equipment on a basement concrete slab you should not need much.



http://www.soundproofing.org/infopages/vibrationpads.htm
Halfway down the page.

I also have many other footers here, Herbies, Carbon Graphite cones,Sorbo, etc.
These pads work very well.

Den

Wayner

Re: Recommendations for inexpensive isolation footers?
« Reply #2 on: 24 Apr 2009, 05:44 pm »
I use hockey pucks under my turntable platforms. They go thud when you hit them and seem to be a great energy absorber. My cost uptown is $1.25 ea.

Pretty easy on the pocket book.

Wayner  :D

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Re: Recommendations for inexpensive isolation footers?
« Reply #3 on: 24 Apr 2009, 08:07 pm »
Den,

I like what the soundproofing.org site says and their general advice.  And you sure can't argue with the prices.  Do you know the pros/cons of using the pads with or without the cork?  I have a CDP and DAC with 1/32" foam, 1/2" birch,1/32" foam, and a 20# concrete paver on each and 15# monoblock chip amps.  Would you recommend pads under all of them?  What are you impressions of the pads?

TIA

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Re: Recommendations for inexpensive isolation footers?
« Reply #4 on: 25 Apr 2009, 12:42 am »
Well, on my glass shelf rack they work a bit better than any of the Herbie's I have here.
Actually especially better for my TT.
My particular need at the time was stopping vibration etc. from affecting my un-suspended Basis 1400.
These worked nicely, stacked 2 in each corner under 50Lbs Granite. They are not interlocked, that is, the grooves on the pads are not joined together like Lego blocks. I have them stacked and not parallel to the glass edges.


I'm figuring to cancel any vibrations generated along/in the glass. This arrangement got rid of all vibration to the table. I also use a 12" down firing HSU VTF3 MKII that can excite the room pretty quickly. This worked so well I put singles under all the rest of my equipment. Again, not having the pad ridges parallel to the glass edges.
They cleaned up the bass and most of all made my table on some material finally beat my CD. It was a nice improvement all around. My system sounds killer now.

My unscientific way of checking vibration on a piece of equipment is just lightly finger tip the piece
to see if it vibrating. Never tried a stethoscope.
 
Mine are from Audiogon but are the same I mentioned above. I paid $12 for 4.
The 50 Lbs granite under this table sounds better than the Maple butcher block setup I was using.

You just have to tinker around with this stuff to find out. Your setup is completely different. I'm using all tubes.
Cheap enough to resell if they don't work out.

I think the cork sandwich is a necessary component for the dampening factor involved.
Wayner's hockey pucks may work very well too on your concrete floors.

Den 

 

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Re: Recommendations for inexpensive isolation footers?
« Reply #5 on: 28 Apr 2009, 11:26 am »
Thanks Den, I just ordered four sets of 2" x 2" cork footers.  Will try to give feedback.

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Re: Recommendations for inexpensive isolation footers?
« Reply #6 on: 28 Apr 2009, 12:23 pm »
I see that JLM has landed on an approach, good.

I have used sponge rubber hockey pucks under a sub in the past - not the actual ones that you use to play hockey (they are hard rubber), but soft sponge ones that we used to use for practice on the garage door...

They keep the sub from transferring bass directly into the floor - I used them in the apartment I used to live in. 

chosenhandle

Re: Recommendations for inexpensive isolation footers?
« Reply #7 on: 28 Apr 2009, 01:06 pm »
what about using "happy or sad balls"? They were all the rage about 5 years ago. seems to me the sad balls are just sorbothane. Very inexpensive.

http://www.evilmadscientist.com/article.php/HappySad

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Re: Recommendations for inexpensive isolation footers?
« Reply #8 on: 28 Apr 2009, 07:09 pm »
Well I hate wasting money, but at $1.50 USD a piece I could afford to "splurge".   :)  I'm "old school".  Back when I started in audio (mid 70s) we all used zip cord for speaker cables and the "throw away" patch cords for interconnects.  Equipment just sat on whatever (except for the turntables that had to stay off the wooden floors to avoid skipping).  And room/treatments barely entered our innocent skulls.

Actually an old friend and fellow audio nut visited a few months ago and his kind words "inspired" me to do better.  (Having some spare coin helped too.)

So I've shipped off a Behringer DEQ2496 I'd bought used here at AC to Scott Endler for mods to use as a DEQ, DAC, baffle step, and zobel; am buying all new interconnects, speaker cable, digital cable, and attenuators from Scott; and am scheduled to have Bud Purvine himself "purvinize" my mighty Fostex F200A drivers.

I'll be sure to report back on how it all sounds.