AKSA kit beats them all in amp shoot out.

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Sparkie

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AKSA kit beats them all in amp shoot out.
« on: 10 Apr 2009, 12:35 am »
Hi All,

Refer to www.asonaudiophiles.com for a March 2009 report on the Audiophile Society of New South Wales amplifier shoot out. An old AKSA amp first against a real heavy weight $A20,000 amp and other amps. This article will make AKSAphiles quietly smile with what they have known for years. Hugh's new Mayer amp and pre amp would have raised the bar even higher!

Smile on.

Sparkie.

Sparkie

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Re: AKSA kit beats them all in amp shoot out.
« Reply #1 on: 10 Apr 2009, 12:51 am »
Hi All,

You'll have to wait a bit till the Audiophile Soc of NSW has successfully updated their web site to read the report.

Sparkie.

whubbard

Re: AKSA kit beats them all in amp shoot out.
« Reply #2 on: 11 Apr 2009, 05:17 am »
Sparkie,
Do you know when the website is meant to be back up?

-West

Rom


AKSA

Re: AKSA kit beats them all in amp shoot out.
« Reply #4 on: 7 May 2009, 10:59 am »
Thanks for finding this, Rom, I've been negotiating with the Audio Society of NSW to link this review from my website, and I'll have it up and running later this week.

Neat test, huh?  I was amazed, and very pleased......

100W AKSA still available, even if the 55W is now off the shelves!

Cheers,

Hugh

Mr Content

Re: AKSA kit beats them all in amp shoot out.
« Reply #5 on: 7 May 2009, 11:18 am »
Congrates Hugh, well deserved aa

Nig :D

whubbard

Re: AKSA kit beats them all in amp shoot out.
« Reply #6 on: 7 May 2009, 12:39 pm »
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There you have it folks, quite a controversial result, albeit not a definitive one by a long shot. Our guess is that the Gryphon is a demanding and extremely revealing beast that would require the highest level of ancillaries to give of its best.

Amazing that they still have to find some sort of justification as to how this could have possibly happened...

-West

DSK

Re: AKSA kit beats them all in amp shoot out.
« Reply #7 on: 7 May 2009, 03:15 pm »
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There you have it folks, quite a controversial result, albeit not a definitive one by a long shot. Our guess is that the Gryphon is a demanding and extremely revealing beast that would require the highest level of ancillaries to give of its best.

Amazing that they still have to find some sort of justification as to how this could have possibly happened...

-West

The "justification" makes no sense anyway ... if the system was not good enough to prevent holding back the Gryphon then it was also holding back the AKSA for the same reason. Or, if the system was good enough to hear the best from the AKSA but not good enough to hear even higher performance from the Gryphon, then it would allow the AKSA to equal the Gryphon in this system but not surpass it. The fact that the listeners heard higher performance from the AKSA than the Gryphon indicates that the system was capable of higher levels of performance than what the Gryphon was able to provide. Pure logic my dear Watson.   :icon_lol:

Kevin Haskins

Re: AKSA kit beats them all in amp shoot out.
« Reply #8 on: 7 May 2009, 03:19 pm »
I'm not surprised..... nice job Hugh.    :thumb:

Occam

Re: AKSA kit beats them all in amp shoot out.
« Reply #9 on: 7 May 2009, 03:20 pm »
WoW!!!  :thumb:

gaetan8888

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« Reply #10 on: 7 May 2009, 07:32 pm »
Hello

Super, but I am not really surprise, Aksa are one of kind amp and a unique amp. This test prove again that Hugh was right in his works and amps design topology and ideas.

I have post the link of the test in the "AKSA amps" thread in the Diyaudio forum.

Bye

Gaetan

Seano

Re: AKSA kit beats them all in amp shoot out.
« Reply #11 on: 8 May 2009, 12:18 am »
Edgar is quite a reasonable gent and a very good writer.  I suspect that his comments may well reflect those in the room at the time of the results being delivered.......people seem to need to find a reason as to why they didn't like something once they learn how 'expensive' and 'good' it is supposed to be. 

The first thing they lose sight of is the fact that they didn't like it as much as something else.

Some people like Porsche 911....others like Subaru WRX.....but everyone still thinks the Porsche is supposed to be better...whether they 'like' the driving experience of it or not.

kyrill

Re: AKSA kit beats them all in amp shoot out.
« Reply #12 on: 8 May 2009, 12:52 pm »
This is a nice shoot out  aa
congrats to the "old" AKSA

turkey

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Re: AKSA kit beats them all in amp shoot out.
« Reply #13 on: 8 May 2009, 01:00 pm »

Amazing that they still have to find some sort of justification as to how this could have possibly happened...


I thought that was pretty funny too. It actually made me think that they had received some sort of compensation from Gryphon and therefore needed to apply some spin to the results. I guess the reviewer has just been reading too many of the slick audio mags and copied their style.

AKSA

Re: AKSA kit beats them all in amp shoot out.
« Reply #14 on: 8 May 2009, 07:51 pm »
Hmmm, as in all things it's more complex than it appears.

Edgar is a great guy, and works professionally as an audio writer in the HT and HiFi mags within Oz and I think also the US.

He reviews the most expensive gear in the world, and has some obligation to highlight its deserved place in the sun.

I guess it's nice being cheap and cheerful, but there is no substitute for high quality perception with a high sticker price!!   :lol:

Cheers,

Hugh

turkey

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Re: AKSA kit beats them all in amp shoot out.
« Reply #15 on: 8 May 2009, 08:21 pm »
He reviews the most expensive gear in the world, and has some obligation to highlight its deserved place in the sun.

What deserved place in the sun? :)

I feel there are plenty of makers of more expensive amps (more expensive than yours, for instance) who should be ashamed of themselves for the poor performance/money ratio of the equipment they sell.

I heard one of your 55W amps a while back and it seemed to be very high quality for a very reasonable price. The person who owned it also told me about the level of support you provide, and that isn't something you get from a lot of the expensive amps either.

Sparkie

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Re: AKSA kit beats them all in amp shoot out.
« Reply #16 on: 9 May 2009, 04:07 am »
There is always wheels within wheels! In this modern age it is up to the individual to have a good look behind the scenes checking out the what's what and who's who.

Invariably, if you dig around a bit there is all too frequently very strong connections between individuals, groups and companies etc. It is a good policy for an individual to get the lay of the land just to learn where people are coming from and what hangups they might be carrying if any. In this ever increasingly complex society we live in a good search helps one to establish if the playing field is level. I may be very cynical, but things that I have taken at face value have, I'm ashamed to say, seen me sliding off the playing field at high speed ending up in heap. You have to live and learn by your mistakes, so test the water first before jumping in and drawing any conclusions.

Sparkie 

andyr

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« Reply #17 on: 9 May 2009, 12:54 pm »
Mmmm, I wonder if any of the "audiophiles" in the Audio Society of NSW would ever think that a shootout of either the Gryphon, again, or any other highly regarded many-kilo-bucks amp against a Lifeforce would be an interesting exercise?  :thumb:

Great news, Hugh - I'm looking forward to reading the article via your Web-site.  :D

Regards,

Andy

chadh

Re: AKSA kit beats them all in amp shoot out.
« Reply #18 on: 9 May 2009, 01:26 pm »

Wow!  Did I read that correctly?  The AKSA amp beat out an amp from DICK SMITH?!?!?!  I hope that means AKSA will be branching out into products like peanut butter soon.  Unless Hugh will be too busy ballooning around the world...

Chad

Russell Dawkins

Re: AKSA kit beats them all in amp shoot out.
« Reply #19 on: 9 May 2009, 05:38 pm »
Edgar is a great guy, and works professionally as an audio writer in the HT and HiFi mags within Oz and I think also the US.

and also apparently still writes for 6moons:
http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/kramer/kramer.html