[Folsom]

Sundried tomato is a winner!  Lay out a tortilla / pita, add spinach, a little sundried tomato dressing with mozzarella / feta.  Wrap and chomp.  Quick and convenient.  Very simple and very tasty!

You know looking back on the whole thing I think I might know something that could help in general with greens.

This is from personal experience.

Get organic spinach and greens (I would get something better than say Trader Joe's). Try local markets or something, or I am sure you have a store that sells them.

When I try to eat non-organic greens I usually just want to spit it out or choke on it a little. The taste is just mortifing. That is the biggest reason I never ate them as a child. It is like apples that are sprayed with chemicals, I can freaking taste it! The human tongue can taste like 250 more different types of bad things for it like chemicals, poisen, etc, than it can things that are good for you to eat. My tonque really shows this when it comes to produce. You might have a similiar problem if you are not enjoying them. I would not argue there is some aquired taste, but believe me it would of never happened had I not tried some organic stuff.

[satfrat]

Sundried tomato is a winner!  Lay out a tortilla / pita, add spinach, a little sundried tomato dressing with mozzarella / feta.  Wrap and chomp.  Quick and convenient.  Very simple and very tasty!

You know looking back on the whole thing I think I might know something that could help in general with greens.

This is from personal experience.

Get organic spinach and greens (I would get something better than say Trader Joe's). Try local markets or something, or I am sure you have a store that sells them.

When I try to eat non-organic greens I usually just want to spit it out or choke on it a little. The taste is just mortifing. That is the biggest reason I never ate them as a child. It is like apples that are sprayed with chemicals, I can freaking taste it! The human tongue can taste like 250 more different types of bad things for it like chemicals, poisen, etc, than it can things that are good for you to eat. My tonque really shows this when it comes to produce. You might have a similiar problem if you are not enjoying them. I would not argue there is some aquired taste, but believe me it would of never happened had I not tried some organic stuff.

  I was a picky eater when I was a kid too. But a backhand from my grandfather quickly broke me of that habit and I now eat whats put in front of me w/o pi$$ing and moaning about "what's in it or where did it come from". I benefited from that attiude change as I'm now more open minded,,, enough so that I will try candied walnuts in a salad at some point. Guess what i'm trying to say DOS is maybe your educated tongue needs a backhand. aa

Cheers,
Robin

[Folsom]

I am just trying to help him. Also yeah I do care what I put in my body and where it is from. I have a very big problem with supporting subsidized food that is eventually pushed on other countries because their farm land was chemical bombed by the US. I also think anyone that does not care about what they put in their body, the one thing you truely own and can invest in, is crazy! I guess I am not the only one since some are trying to eat more veggies. Veggies are better than pills (later) in my opinion.

Candied but not like wrapped in a shell or anything mind you.

[satfrat]

Sundried tomato is a winner!  Lay out a tortilla / pita, add spinach, a little sundried tomato dressing with mozzarella / feta.  Wrap and chomp.  Quick and convenient.  Very simple and very tasty!

You know looking back on the whole thing I think I might know something that could help in general with greens.

This is from personal experience.

Get organic spinach and greens (I would get something better than say Trader Joe's). Try local markets or something, or I am sure you have a store that sells them.

When I try to eat non-organic greens I usually just want to spit it out or choke on it a little. The taste is just mortifing. That is the biggest reason I never ate them as a child. It is like apples that are sprayed with chemicals, I can freaking taste it! The human tongue can taste like 250 more different types of bad things for it like chemicals, poisen, etc, than it can things that are good for you to eat. My tonque really shows this when it comes to produce. You might have a similiar problem if you are not enjoying them. I would not argue there is some aquired taste, but believe me it would of never happened had I not tried some organic stuff.

  I was a picky eater when I was a kid too. But a backhand from my grandfather quickly broke me of that habit and I now eat whats put in front of me w/o pi$$ing and moaning about "what's in it or where did it come from". I benefited from that attiude change as I'm now more open minded,,, enough so that I will try candied walnuts in a salad at some point. Guess what i'm trying to say DOS is maybe your educated tongue needs a backhand. aa

Cheers,
Robin

I bet your Grandfather didn't have to put up with all that chemical sh$t they put on food today  DOS is jut trying to say if you don't like it try the real organically grown stuff instead.
A few years ago I was in a village in rural China and had a plate of stewed tomatoes and eggs - it was so good I'd forgotten what they tasted like, much more flavor than the crap they sell in the supermarkets today.  In Costco last week they were handing out samples of Folgers coffee, me being cheap thought it might save a few $ -it was so bad I almost threw up.  That's why you and I buy great coffee from specialist roasters  Guess what I'm trying to say is DOS is just doing what we do, cut him some slack    

I suggest you look back a few posts to see how much slack he gave me. I'd also suggest you take a look at the many homeless out there on the streets and wonder if they would be concerned with your pettyness perks. I'm sure back in my grandfather's day, chemicals of today wasn't a concern but when I got that backhand in the 60's, your chemical concern was much worse than today as there were no regulations whatsoever. At least some of that crap has been banned. But I hear ya about Folgers!

Cheers,
Robin

[JerryM]

You know looking back on the whole thing I think I might know something that could help in general with greens.

This is from personal experience.

Get organic spinach and greens (I would get something better than say Trader Joe's). Try local markets or something, or I am sure you have a store that sells them.

When I try to eat non-organic greens I usually just want to spit it out or choke on it a little. The taste is just mortifing. That is the biggest reason I never ate them as a child. It is like apples that are sprayed with chemicals, I can freaking taste it! The human tongue can taste like 250 more different types of bad things for it like chemicals, poisen, etc, than it can things that are good for you to eat. My tonque really shows this when it comes to produce. You might have a similiar problem if you are not enjoying them. I would not argue there is some aquired taste, but believe me it would of never happened had I not tried some organic stuff.

DOS,

I'm with ya' on this one! I can taste it, too!!!

While I miss a good 'ol mid '80s malathion flavor, organic anything kinda tastes like crap. I wonder why?  

Have fun,
Jerry

[satfrat]

I am just trying to help him. Also yeah I do care what I put in my body and where it is from. I have a very big problem with supporting subsidized food that is eventually pushed on other countries because their farm land was chemical bombed by the US. I also think anyone that does not care about what they put in their body, the one thing you truely own and can invest in, is crazy! I guess I am not the only one since some are trying to eat more veggies. Veggies are better than pills (later) in my opinion.

Candied but not like wrapped in a shell or anything mind you.

Well from someone who takes a dozen pills a day, I'm in full agreement with that statement!

[geezer]

I'm with DOS. Here's my story. I had suffered severely with allergies for almost 20 years. A doctor told me that certain people may be eating some foods (to which they are not allergic) that can sensitize them to various allergens, such as pollens, molds, and lots of others. He suggested I try a very limited strictly vegetarian diet, and that I should look for only natural foods (i.e., no additives of any sort, and none but whole grains), which pretty much limited me to organics. Since I was suffering so badly with allergies, which weren't mitigated by the usual means, I was willing to try.

What happened? My allergies disappeared within about four months. But there were also additional,  unexpected benefits. Previously I couldn't drink even a few sips of beer or wine without getting a headache, and even when I abstained from alcohol, I would get one or two bad headaches per week. Since going on that diet eight years ago, I haven't had a single headache even though I now drink alcohol (moderately). I used to get cold sores four or five times a year. I get none now. Over the first four months of the diet I lost 15 pounds even though I don't stint myself at all in the quantities I eat, and my blood pressure went from 140/90 to 120/68. Since I now sleep better, I have more energy.

After about six months on the purely vegetarian diet, I tried adding fish, and found that it still works. (But no packaged stuff. I eat only wild-caught fish and they must be "fresh", meaning they were frozen very soon after being caught and never refrozen.)

It's my guess that much of the ill health that is so increasingly prevalent is due not only to eating too much, but also eating too much garbage. We are breathing, drinking and eating substances that didn't exist when our genetic make-up was determined, and our bodies can't take it.

If you have health problems and you have the necessary self-discipline, give it a try.

(Apologies for the sermon, but after my transforming experience,  I am a true believer.)

[Brown]

Well if you knew what the wrong foods do to your metabolism you might consider changing your eating habits. try reading "eat Right 4 your Type' by Dr Peter D'Adamo. This is science not an opinion. It has changed our lives for the good. Never had more energy, felt better, digest all our food, sleep better, have no stomach problems and best of all back to the same clothing size as we were when we were 18, no sh*t. No supplements to buy, no programed diets. just eat the foods that are right for your blood type.
   There is a reason why so many people have stomach issues. they are eating processed food which kills the digestive enzymes in food. which in turn is harder to digest 100%. When you start to eat properly you will crap three times a day, never feel bloated or uncomfortable. The key is to maintain a alkaline state not acidic.
    BTW organic food tastes better. We eat organic as much as we can. Look we can take you to the water but can't make you drink, its your body the choice is yours. You can feel a lot better if you want to, its up to you.
    Not preaching just trying to pass along the information that really changed our lives for the better. At least read it.

[Philistine]

I want to know my blood type so I can check out the "eat right 4 you" ideas.

Food has changed in interesting ways. True there were some bad pestisides leading up until their ban. Also not EVERYONE used the bad pestisides, hell you could taste the difference often. However it was not until the 1970's that thing like High Fructose Corn Syrup and other heavy GMO things appeared. Around the 1980s it all seem to become standard. Interesting things happened like my father stopped eating chili peppers about the time they turned GMO because he could not digest them, just heart burn. I myself growing up went from eating some vegetables to eating almost none. My parents had no idea they could go get better vegetables, I mean where do you get them, the grocery store right?

When people were our fathers' and grandfathers' age at least some things were true, like an apple was an apple, sugar in anything was sugar etc... They had no reason to question anything, it all just "was". Now just about nothing is what it appears. Consider this, the average price for a hamburger meal in a resterraunt has increased from say $4 to $8 maybe even $10 over the last 30-50 years. Cars have increased from $3k to $30k+. Considering the amazing low increase percentage in food you got to wonder how it is possible. I think the only real answer is for the most part subsidizing and industrial infastructure that means lots of GMO, pesticides, etc...

I guess all in all I see good food good for everyone. It is more beneficial for the world over, and on everyone's personal level they feel better in all ways. When people feel better they persue passions, they are better decision makers, they have the ability to less problematic so they make other peoples life better (like your kids, wife, friends etc). If there is anything to really say it is the biggest joke played on us by the advertising industry it is that there are millions of more important things than what we put in our body to spend money on.

This thread makes me hungry.

Hi DOS, I think Robin was right after all - you need to spend a few days with his Grandfather

On a serious note - when I go back to Europe the first impression is how thin everyone is (and I used to be).  The typical US diet is appalling, too much high fructose corn syrup, too much prepared food and a focus on quantity and not quality.  All my neighbors have beautiful Corian kitchens and rely on the pizza delivery guy - and need a truck license for their big fat a$$e$

To finish on a roll - Robin is wrong about education: resterraunt is restaurant, persue is pursue