WTB Fostex 120A Alnico

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Mr Content

WTB Fostex 120A Alnico
« on: 22 Mar 2009, 11:52 am »
Hi Guys anyone got 2 for sale?  :thumb:

Mr C :D

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Re: WTB Fostex 120A Alnico
« Reply #1 on: 22 Mar 2009, 01:43 pm »
I just looked at Madisound the other day and it looked like they were in stock -- at least they didn't say they were out.

Great drivers!

-- Jim

Mr Content

Re: WTB Fostex 120A Alnico
« Reply #2 on: 23 Mar 2009, 06:19 am »
Yes Jim , I saw that as well, I haven't heard them, and would like to have a play with them,  hopeing  I can get a used pair a bit cheaper :singing:

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Re: WTB Fostex 120A Alnico
« Reply #3 on: 23 Mar 2009, 02:35 pm »
Mr. C,

Understood.  If you live anyway near Boulder/Denver, Colorado, you can always come and give mine a listen.  The enclosure will also make a difference, but the general character of the drivers should still come across in pretty much any enclosure that's close to properly tuned for them.  They're also pretty revealing of flaws in the system, and I think SE tube amplification is best with them -- having used SS, tube PP and SE.

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skite30

Re: WTB Fostex 120A Alnico
« Reply #4 on: 23 Mar 2009, 06:56 pm »
Jim
How many SE watts are you talking about. I've all ways heard these drivers needed more power. Just curious I've stayed away from them because of that.

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Re: WTB Fostex 120A Alnico
« Reply #5 on: 23 Mar 2009, 07:18 pm »
Thanks for the invite Jim........but......I am 8323 miles from you. The toll from here is extreme :banghead:

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Re: WTB Fostex 120A Alnico
« Reply #6 on: 23 Mar 2009, 07:26 pm »
Mr. C,

Ah, that would probably put you somewhere in OZ or Kiwiland, or... Antartica, or somewhere in the middle of the Asian Continent.  Yes, a bit far to travel for a listen :D.

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Re: WTB Fostex 120A Alnico
« Reply #7 on: 23 Mar 2009, 07:44 pm »
Skite30,

It's all a matter of your listenng preferences, room size, etc., but I find the Wright Mono7s with 7 300B watts to be just fine for all but the really big and complex stuff (but we'll see how that improves once the Shuguang black bottle 300bz tubes get here).  To be sure, the speakers didn't have any real limitations beyond their design limits when I used them with the Decware Torii II at 24 class A PP watts, but these drivers do have a fairly low power handling limit and a fairly low xmax, so aren't really suitable to rockin the house, and even as low as my fonkensteens go, I'm sure things will be better with some well integrated bottom end reinforcement.

But back to amps...  I had an Audio Note P2SE -- 10 watt PSE el84 amp that drove them extremely well, again, certainly as far as the drivers could be pushed when run full range, and another SE el34 amp from Yarland that was rated at 10-12 watts, that also gave them all the oomph they needed.

I was also very surprised to se how well they did with my Carina in UL mode at 3.2 watts or so, and even in my larger listening room -- the living room.  Again, not dance party loud, but loud and clean enough that normal conversation would be pretty difficult.

The one advantage I see to these drivers with lower power amps is that when listening at low levels at night, etc., you have to give them enough juice so that there is plenty of flux flowing in the cores of the OPTs, and thus you get a very full, detailed, and reasonably dynamic presentation.  Best low-level speakers I've ever had, and that's not something very many speakers can do well, IMO.

There is also a clear and unmistakeable difference between SE and PP, and while the Torii II was a really nice sounding amp, when I switched from it to the Carina at 3 watts, it was just so much more enjoyable to listen to.  Even the Audio Note, which I loved, didn't sound as clean and "right" as the Carina did, and the difference there is between parallel and single el84 output tubes.  I guess the point here is that they are mercilessly revealing of everything upstream, and SE is what my ears like.

HTH,

Jim

Mr Content

Re: WTB Fostex 120A Alnico
« Reply #8 on: 24 Mar 2009, 06:18 am »
Close Jim........OZ about an hour north of Sydney, just a bit far for a listen, but if I am ever in North America I will PM you.

Mr C aa

skite30

Re: WTB Fostex 120A Alnico
« Reply #9 on: 24 Mar 2009, 08:44 am »
jrebman
thanks for a very informative reply. I have a em7-5 that I love in a small room. I have felt I would probably be borderline power wise for the f-120a. I will take a closer look at it now based on your experiences.

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Re: WTB Fostex 120A Alnico
« Reply #10 on: 24 Mar 2009, 11:42 am »
Mr. C -- always welcome should be in these parts.

Skite30, my only concern with the EM7-5 is that the MR amps aren't known for having lots of iron, and in an SE design like this, the power supply and OPTs are going to make a pretty big difference.  My 3 watt amp weighs 30 pounds and a huge chunk of that is iron.  I had an em7-2.5 and it was an awful lot lighter than that.

I'm not saying it won't work, both because one never knows how a given amp will perform with a given speaker, and because the em7-5 could be somewhat more substantial in the PS and OPT iron department than the 2.5.

But the fact still remains that the 89 dB rating of the f120A is a bit misleading from the numbers and that not needing a crossover or BSC circuit is always a big help with lower power amps.

-- Jim
 

Mr Content

Re: WTB Fostex 120A Alnico
« Reply #11 on: 26 Mar 2009, 07:22 am »
Hey Jim, thanks. One day I will get to visit my many state side friends. aa

Mr C :D