First and Last Watt

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First and Last Watt
« on: 2 Mar 2009, 07:39 pm »
Hi All,

We are starting to get some feedback from our customers and reviewers about how great the new Bryston SST Squared series of amplifiers are sounding at very low volumes. I thought you may be interested in the following:


SST² (Squared) Amplifier Philosophy

FIRST TO LAST WATT PHILOSOPHY:

A significant part of the design criteria for the new SST² (squared) was to develop amplifiers that would maintain an ideal power curve through the 'first and last watt'. Most amplifiers exhibit a power curve whereby the best noise floor, drive capability and distortion are maintained from about 1/3 power and up. The new Bryston SST² (squared) series maintain their ideal power curve right from the first watt to the last watt. Think of it like a torque curve in a car. The sweet spot or the torque curve has been expanded.

Achieving this 'First-to-last-Watt' fidelity and clarity has to do with a number of design approaches:


·   First is complete freedom from low-level crossover, or zero-crossing, artifacts.  This is not as easy as it sounds.  Most class-AB amplifiers have sufficient bias to prevent primary crossover distortion, but there is another type of crossover artifact called 'secondary crossover distortion', caused by insufficient speed in the driver transistors.  We use very fast drivers to prevent this, but more important is Bryston's proprietary Quad Complementary Output design vastly reduces the capacitance 'seen' by the driver transistors, virtually eliminating storage delay in the output stage that could contribute to nonlinearities in the zero-crossing region.

·   Second is Bryston's continuing efforts to reduce low-level noise.  The clarity of Bryston's designs is enhanced at low listening levels by pushing the noise floor far below the signal level, improving the 'silence between the notes' and enhancing the clarity of the music at low power levels.

·   Third is Bryston's concentration on reducing distortion at all levels, and most especially at high frequencies.  Bryston amplifiers are perhaps the only designs to concentrate as much effort at reducing HF distortion artifacts as we do, and the results are remarkably 'flat' THD-with-frequency curves, showing almost no tendency to increase distortion as frequency rises.  This has the effect of reducing overall 'haze', helping to pull the quietest passages out of the background.

 
There are other small contributors to this low-level clarity, some having to do with power-supply design for extreme stability, (and in Stereo or multi-channel amps, separated for each channel), which very notably improves the placement-in-space and focus of the sonic 'image'.  We think the overall result is an unprecedented degree of clarity and freedom from artificiality, especially noticeable at lower levels in comparison with other designs, but continuing to even the highest outputs.


james


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Re: First and Last Watt
« Reply #1 on: 13 Mar 2009, 01:10 am »
Hi James

I was wandering if my 4bsq also runs in class A at low volume? I ask this because it sounds extremely good at low volume.  Might i get about 10 watts or so of class A?

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« Reply #2 on: 13 Mar 2009, 01:44 am »
Hi James

I was wandering if my 4bsq also runs in class A at low volume? I ask this because it sounds extremely good at low volume.  Might i get about 10 watts or so of class A?

Hi - yes about 1% of the power rating is Class A.

james
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Re: First and Last Watt
« Reply #3 on: 13 Mar 2009, 12:45 pm »
Out of curiousity, what about the 4B-ST?

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« Reply #4 on: 13 Mar 2009, 01:09 pm »
Out of curiousity, what about the 4B-ST?
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Hi Dan

All of the amplifiers going way back run some small amount of their power Class A and it will change a little bit from model to model.

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Re: First and Last Watt
« Reply #5 on: 13 Mar 2009, 01:21 pm »
Thanks!

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Re: First and Last Watt
« Reply #6 on: 13 Mar 2009, 04:19 pm »
The 28b is a real contender in class A also. i hope it sounds as good at low volume as the 4b and doesnt get hung up with too much power. From what u've said above it sounds like it doesnt.

thanx for the quick reponse

werd

Re: First and Last Watt
« Reply #7 on: 13 Mar 2009, 04:29 pm »
From what u said above it sounds like it doesnt get hung up with too much power....( meant to say in above post)

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Re: First and Last Watt
« Reply #8 on: 13 Mar 2009, 06:14 pm »
Hi James

I was wandering if my 4bsq also runs in class A at low volume? I ask this because it sounds extremely good at low volume. 

That's probably due to your speakers more than the amp. It isn't until you feed them some power that you start to hear the flaws in most speaker systems.

I highly doubt that there is a discernable difference in the sound of a Bryston amp when running in Class A versus in AB at higher power.

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Re: First and Last Watt
« Reply #9 on: 13 Mar 2009, 06:20 pm »
Hi James

I was wandering if my 4bsq also runs in class A at low volume? I ask this because it sounds extremely good at low volume.  Might i get about 10 watts or so of class A?

Hi - yes about 5% of the power rating is Class A.

james


Hi James,

The "Pro Audio Review" on the website of the 14B SST claims the first 25 watts are class A.  Is that correct?

Bill

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Re: First and Last Watt
« Reply #10 on: 13 Mar 2009, 06:22 pm »
Hi James

I was wandering if my 4bsq also runs in class A at low volume? I ask this because it sounds extremely good at low volume.  Might i get about 10 watts or so of class A?

Hi - yes about 5% of the power rating is Class A.

james


Hi James,

The "Pro Audio Review" on the website of the 14B SST claims the first 25 watts are class A.  Is that correct?

Bill

I will check with engineering.

james

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Re: First and Last Watt
« Reply #11 on: 13 Mar 2009, 06:36 pm »
Hi James

I was wandering if my 4bsq also runs in class A at low volume? I ask this because it sounds extremely good at low volume. 

That's probably due to your speakers more than the amp. It isn't until you feed them some power that you start to hear the flaws in most speaker systems.

I highly doubt that there is a discernable difference in the sound of a Bryston amp when running in Class A versus in AB at higher power.

Actually James confirmed a suspicion i had. I can hear the transistors in class A at low volume. U turn it up and they start switching, thats audible too.

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Re: First and Last Watt
« Reply #12 on: 13 Mar 2009, 07:15 pm »
Ok engineering tells me that the amplifiers run Class A for about the first 1% of their power rating so a 14B would be about 6 watts. The amount of Class A depends on the amount of bias applied and the total number of transistors used.

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« Reply #13 on: 13 Mar 2009, 07:19 pm »
Here's a more technical explaination:

It's All A Matter of Class, Eh?

If you have followed power amplifier technology for any length of time, you will have noticed mention of "class", as Class A, Class AB, etc., and perhaps wondered exactly what this nomenclature pertained to. These terms do not refer to quality, but to the operating parameter of the output section. Most power amplifier output stages operate in a push-pull configuration, where the power is delivered from two power supplies on either side of ground, or zero volts. (There are some which do not, but they are relatively non-linear, and need not be considered here).

Operating in push-pull, the output transistors share the load, and are theoretically required to do work only as the signal swings away from ground, in either the positive or negative direction. If the transistors are completely switched off at zero output, and only start conducting when signal is present, this is defined as Class B operation. This is an efficient way of operating the output, and the amplifier runs cool at no signal, but there is one disadvantage; The output devices always have some lag time in their operation, and thus there appears a small but potentially annoying dead zone, called "crossover distortion", at the zero point. Although this crossover nonlinearity does not necessarily add large amounts to the distortion numbers, (0.05% is probably typical), it is easy to is that hear.

Fortunately, crossover distortion can be reduced to negligible proportions by the simple expedient of running the output transistors "biased" slightly "on" at idle, so they start conducting before the output swings through the zero point. When an amplifier runs this biased output mechanism, it is referred to as "Class AB". Moderate amounts of bias are all that is needed, and as it produces only a bit of heat, this type of amp is still reasonably efficient. Crossover distortion has a number of ways to pop up its ugly little head, however, even if there is a fair amount of bias present, so the engineering of this type of amplifier must be very exacting and precise to give the lowest distortion at all frequencies. If done properly, however, there is no more accurate or lower-distortion type of amplifier available; 0.01% is typical, and 0.001% is attainable.

Some engineers prefer not to have to deal with the possibility of crossover distortion in their designs, and they choose another bias system, called "Class A", where the output transistors are biased on so much that they continuously conduct more than the full load current, even at idle. Thus, they never turn "on" or "off', theoretically obviating crossover distortion.

Unfortunately, this operating system has some obvious, (and some not-so-obvious), disadvantages. Running that much current generates a tremendous amount of heat, so the amplifier is not just inefficient, it is large and expensive, due to the huge heat-dissipating mechanisms required. This consequently warms up the whole room as a side-effect. (Nice in the winter, but remember electric heat is the most expensive kind there is).

A not-so-obvious disadvantage with class A designs is that this high idling current has consequences to the distortion levels far beyond the theoretical elimination of crossover artifacts, (which even in itself is debatable). Transistors have numerous types of distortion mechanisms, among which are deviations from linearity under conditions of simultaneous high voltage and high current. These are, of course, the exact parameters necessary to class A operation, and a typical Class A amplifier runs distortion levels at least 10 times, and often over 100 times, as high as a Class AB amplifier of similar power, or around 0.1%. A careful inspection pf the distortion spectrum also reveals that all the'harmonics are increased, including those represented by the crossover distortion at which the class A operation was aimed in the first place!

Going in the other direction, Class D offers high efficiency through a very different approach to output operation. Class D, often erroneously thought of as "digital amplification", is actually an analog system which varies the width of the top-versus-bottom duty-cycle of a squarewave carrier frequency. The amplifier still traverses from negative to positive voltages and back again, but does so continuously, at a high frequency of perhaps 500 kHz. The time it spends at one extreme or the other is proportional to the locus, or exact voltage-time relationship, of the desired signal at that moment.

Since the output devices spend almost all their time at either full-on or full-off, (areas of absolute minimal dissipation), efficiency is very high, from 80 to 90%. Thus, these amplifiers produce very little heat, and do not have to be as heavy or as large as typical class AB amplifiers, (to say nothing of the class A monsters)! There are naturally disadvantages as well. Class D, by definition, uses very large RF signals, and must be shielded and well-filtered to prevent interference and speaker-damaging outputs. This in turn harms overall linearity, as well as adding to the cost, thus this is not an inexpensive technology. The overall distortion is usually on a par with Class A amplification; good but not great, at around 0.1% or so. If efficiency is your requirement, though, this is the way to go.

james





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Re: First and Last Watt
« Reply #14 on: 13 Mar 2009, 07:20 pm »
Ok engineering tells me that the amplifiers run Class A for about the first 1% of their power rating so a 14B would be about 6 watts. The amount of Class A depends on the amount of bias applied and the total number of transistors used.

james




so the less transistors the higher amount of class A....right?

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Re: First and Last Watt
« Reply #15 on: 13 Mar 2009, 07:22 pm »
Ok engineering tells me that the amplifiers run Class A for about the first 1% of their power rating so a 14B would be about 6 watts. The amount of Class A depends on the amount of bias applied and the total number of transistors used.

james




so the less transistors the higher amount of class A....right?

No the opposite - the more transistors the more output in Class A

james

werd

Re: First and Last Watt
« Reply #16 on: 16 Mar 2009, 03:27 pm »
Ok engineering tells me that the amplifiers run Class A for about the first 1% of their power rating so a 14B would be about 6 watts. The amount of Class A depends on the amount of bias applied and the total number of transistors used.

james




so the less transistors the higher amount of class A....right?

No the opposite - the more transistors the more output in Class A

james


Oh yah thats right.... :duh: ..... brain fart