Skipping Records: Time For Surgery?

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orthobiz

Skipping Records: Time For Surgery?
« on: 14 Feb 2009, 01:48 pm »
Haven't had the guts to do anything more than clean the heck out of the (luckily) very few records I have with recalcitrant skips. But some of the single skips still remain. I even tried rubbing Silly Putty back and forth over the offending groove.

Anybody try messing around with the groove itself with a pin or a needle? A scalpel?

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/7049/skips.htm

The fellow in this post talks about forward skips. Is it my imagination or do 99 percent of skips make the same groove play over and over again backwards, forcing you to get up and move the stylus forward?

Paul

Wayner

Re: Skipping Records: Time For Surgery?
« Reply #1 on: 14 Feb 2009, 02:51 pm »
It depends on the adjustment of your anti-skate. The natural tendency for the tonearm in the groove is to move towards the center. However, with an over compensated anti-skate, the arm will pull outward in free air. The skip is caused by one of 2 problems. First is the dreaded clump of glunk glued into the groove, being very stubborn to dislodge, but most of the time, its groove wall damage. The top on the groove has been curled into the path of the stylus and acts as an off-ramp to the next groove.

If I had a microscope, I'd try to find the little bastard and use a pin, like you suggest to uncurl the damage. This is really a tough one, like flattening out warped records.

Good luck.  :o

Wayner

richidoo

Re: Skipping Records: Time For Surgery?
« Reply #2 on: 14 Feb 2009, 03:10 pm »
Before I was smart enough to know better, I used an XActo knife to fix skips in my father's old jazz records. I used an XActo knife to fix everything back then... But it worked, and I have fixed a dozen over the years. You need very good vision like Wayner says. Just find the skip using the record player, and retrace a new groove through the obstacle. It will never be a perfect silent fix, there will be a noise, but at least you can sing along again.

I've never tried a pin but it should work to plow the existing misplaced vinyl back into position, but I don't know if the vinyl will stay in the corrected position. If not, the sharp blade will cut a new furrow through the vinyl. Use a new "#11" blade with a sharp point. Don't try to do it in one cut, just gentle go over the track you are trying to make a bunch of times until it starts to form.

Other times, the knife tip can remove a piece of dirt that cleaners won't. But I think steam or a better cleaning fluid  would probably be safer in that case.

orthobiz

Re: Skipping Records: Time For Surgery?
« Reply #3 on: 14 Feb 2009, 04:09 pm »
But I think steam or a better cleaning fluid  would probably be safer in that case.

I have a steamer, too. I can think of a couple of "skippers" that I haven't steamed yet.
If I have success, I'll report back.

Paul