Tact 2.2XP or Lyngdorf DPA-1

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angelo

Tact 2.2XP or Lyngdorf DPA-1
« on: 21 Jan 2009, 08:21 pm »
Does anybody know the difference between the two, and w/c one is better? Does the DPA-1 use an older technology and hardware?

I read that the 2.2XP only measures at the listening position (sweet spot) and the DPA-1 measures from multiple locations in the room, so their room correction approach is completely different.

If you're buying one w/c one you'll get, I think the DPA-1 cost less, does that also mean the DPA-1 offers less?

thanks for reading... please advice.

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angelo

saisunil

Re: Tact 2.2XP or Lyngdorf DPA-1
« Reply #1 on: 21 Jan 2009, 08:40 pm »
I have heard that there is change in disributorship in the US of the Lyngdorf products - so you can find very good deals 40% off or more on demo or lightly used products.

As far as I have read - Lyngdorf has an advantage in the way it takes measurements in space and offers a more natual (better?) presentation.

Good Luck

Big Red Machine

Re: Tact 2.2XP or Lyngdorf DPA-1
« Reply #2 on: 21 Jan 2009, 08:44 pm »
The biggest issue for me, disregarding the methodologies employed, was that I really didn't care for the sound of the DAC in the Lyngdorf.  In either unit, you are stuck with that "sound" due to the DAC they use and the fact you cannot bypass it.  I had other dislikes, but having only owned it for a ridiculously short time, I cannot say too much.  Never owned a Tact.

At the end of the day, the Lyngdorf told me it was only making an 8% improvement to my room.  Being heavily treated the resulting sound was no where near what I had hoped for.  So, needless to say, I won't be usng any of those devices again soon.

angelo

Re: Tact 2.2XP or Lyngdorf DPA-1
« Reply #3 on: 21 Jan 2009, 09:12 pm »
I was told that the current method used by Lyngdorf is the same as the older Tact products.  So it means that Tact has used the multiple mic location measurements and abandoned it bec. they think their current method is better/more effective.

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angelo

I have heard that there is change in disributorship in the US of the Lyngdorf products - so you can find very good deals 40% off or more on demo or lightly used products.

As far as I have read - Lyngdorf has an advantage in the way it takes measurements in space and offers a more natual (better?) presentation.

Good Luck

jaywills

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Re: Tact 2.2XP or Lyngdorf DPA-1
« Reply #4 on: 21 Jan 2009, 09:19 pm »
Good afternoon. I have a TacT 2.2x and the software for it does allow multiple measuring spots.  If the DAC's a problem (the one in mine seems all right), I believe that you can bypass it and run a digital out after room correction to a DAC that sounds more pleasing to you.  After listening to corrected music over the past few years, it's very hard for me to go back, especially given the room anomolies that I have.  Good luck. Cordially,

Don_S

Re: Tact 2.2XP or Lyngdorf DPA-1
« Reply #5 on: 21 Jan 2009, 11:36 pm »
Jay,  I have a TacT 2.2X and it will only accept one measurement location, not multiple locations.  Have you figured out a way to fool it?  Mine is smarter than I am.  :lol:

The internal DAC cards can be bypassed or ignored--as in DAC cards are optional and the user does not have to purchase them.   2.2X units have  AES/EBU (balanced), S/PDIF (RCA), and Toslink digital outputs for both the main speakers and subwoofer(s) outputs. Those can be used with external DACs. 

A 2.2X also has RCA and XLR analog outputs for the main speakers and subwoofers.  Each set of outputs [main/sub(s)] requires a DAC card or external DAC to use with an analog input (read that non-TacT) amplifier.  So a 2.2X can be operated with zero, one, or two internal DAC cards as the user chooses.  For example--hot snot tube DAC on mains and internal DAC card on subs. The 2.2X measurement and correction process will take care of any time delays resulting from using an external DAC.

jaywills

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Re: Tact 2.2XP or Lyngdorf DPA-1
« Reply #6 on: 22 Jan 2009, 01:06 am »
Good evening, Don.  Although I may be guilty of having a convenient memory, I seem to recall that there was a method of measuring a larger area than the single listening point using the dual domain feature of the software.  IIRC, it allowed one to measure using several data points so that the correction would work over a larger area, such a a couch or several closely spaced chairs.  I'll see if I can locate my old copy of Tac Tility, which is where I recall reading about it (I never tried it myself).  If I locate it, I'll post about it in this thread.  My only real criticism of the TacT hardware was the sketchy instructions that came with both the 2.0 and the 2.2x.  I'll also check with the folks at the real tact hackers and tact audio users group.  Cordially,

angelo

Re: Tact 2.2XP or Lyngdorf DPA-1
« Reply #7 on: 22 Jan 2009, 04:36 am »
That's true. Lyngdorf pricing is much less compare to Tact after discounts on the demo units. And the lyngdorf comes w/ all options but only has 1 RCA digital out.

I'm really hoping somebody here has auditioned both units, I can't order both at the same time to test.

I have heard that there is change in disributorship in the US of the Lyngdorf products - so you can find very good deals 40% off or more on demo or lightly used products.

As far as I have read - Lyngdorf has an advantage in the way it takes measurements in space and offers a more natual (better?) presentation.

Good Luck