Bryston B-60sst and Bcd-1

Hififreak · « **Reply #40 on:** 10 Apr 2009, 05:54 am »

Studio Alkmaar is a Bryston dealer: Knock knock!

werd · « **Reply #41 on:** 10 Apr 2009, 04:09 pm »

Quote from: Hififreak on 10 Apr 2009, 05:54 am

Studio Alkmaar is a Bryston dealer: Knock knock!

Oh yah i see that, his Bryston inventory is leet

. Doesnt even mention Bryston on his website, that i can see, dont speak Dutch maybe there is mention.

SF · « **Reply #42 on:** 10 Apr 2009, 08:21 pm »

Well, the Bryston sound is not for everyone. Maybe you should switch to whatever brand you like best. That's the whole fun of it anyway: shop around until you find what sounds great to your ears, especially if your dealer agrees that it probably is nothing that can be fixed (by comparing against previous Bryston integrated amps (s)he has sold). Regarding power, I tend to agree with Werd. My B&W 804S speakers rated at 200W 90dB sens, sounded great on 4BSST (300wpc), but sounded even greater on 14BST (600wpc). And soundstaging has never been a problem for me.

Hififreak · « **Reply #43 on:** 10 Apr 2009, 09:45 pm »

Quote from: werd on 10 Apr 2009, 04:09 pm

Quote from: Hififreak on 10 Apr 2009, 05:54 am
Studio Alkmaar is a Bryston dealer: Knock knock!

Oh yah i see that, his Bryston inventory is leet . Doesnt even mention Bryston on his website, that i can see, dont speak Dutch maybe there is mention.

The Brystonpromotion in Holland is't as good as it shoud be.
There is only one site with more information: Knock.

werd · « **Reply #44 on:** 11 Apr 2009, 12:42 am »

Quote from: Hififreak on 10 Apr 2009, 09:45 pm

Quote from: werd on 10 Apr 2009, 04:09 pm
Quote from: Hififreak on 10 Apr 2009, 05:54 am
Studio Alkmaar is a Bryston dealer: Knock knock!

Oh yah i see that, his Bryston inventory is leet . Doesnt even mention Bryston on his website, that i can see, dont speak Dutch maybe there is mention.
The Brystonpromotion in Holland is't as good as it shoud be.
There is only one site with more information: Knock.

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werd · « **Reply #45 on:** 11 Apr 2009, 12:43 am »

Quote from: werd on 11 Apr 2009, 12:42 am

Quote from: Hififreak on 10 Apr 2009, 09:45 pm
Quote from: werd on 10 Apr 2009, 04:09 pm
Quote from: Hififreak on 10 Apr 2009, 05:54 am
Studio Alkmaar is a Bryston dealer: Knock knock!

Oh yah i see that, his Bryston inventory is leet . Doesnt even mention Bryston on his website, that i can see, dont speak Dutch maybe there is mention.
The Brystonpromotion in Holland is't as good as it shoud be.
There is only one site with more information: Knock.

wow this photo rocks

never seen this one, great pic on your website hififreaks

werd · « **Reply #46 on:** 11 Apr 2009, 12:45 am »

Quote from: werd on 11 Apr 2009, 12:42 am

Quote from: Hififreak on 10 Apr 2009, 09:45 pm
Quote from: werd on 10 Apr 2009, 04:09 pm
Quote from: Hififreak on 10 Apr 2009, 05:54 am
Studio Alkmaar is a Bryston dealer: Knock knock!

Oh yah i see that, his Bryston inventory is leet . Doesnt even mention Bryston on his website, that i can see, dont speak Dutch maybe there is mention.
The Brystonpromotion in Holland is't as good as it shoud be.
There is only one site with more information: Knock.
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werd · « **Reply #47 on:** 11 Apr 2009, 12:47 am »

sorry having troubles with my quote and save. it seems to be making copies of it self for somereason.

daffy · « **Reply #48 on:** 6 May 2009, 06:40 pm »

Ok the b-60 is back home.

The b-60 was sent to the importer and i was told that they found that the bias setting was certainly not on spec.

my first quick listening sessions let me conclude that there is more space,3d etc. than before, the flat wall of sound is gone and voices sound more "normal" than before.

Am i happy now ? well not quite because in the absence of the b-60 i have lived with a symphonicline rg14 edition amp that sounds better i.m.o.

later more news.

daffy

werd · « **Reply #49 on:** 7 May 2009, 01:07 am »

Quote from: daffy on 6 May 2009, 06:40 pm

Ok the b-60 is back home.

The b-60 was sent to the importer and i was told that they found that the bias setting was certainly not on spec.

my first quick listening sessions let me conclude that there is more space,3d etc. than before, the flat wall of sound is gone and voices sound more "normal" than before.

Am i happy now ? well not quite because in the absence of the b-60 i have lived with a symphonicline rg14 edition amp that sounds better i.m.o.

later more news.

daffy

Thats great Daffy i am glad to hear that

The Bryston will grow on you, its that kinda brand that stands the test of time, i am sure you soon forget the symphonic.

daffy · « **Reply #50 on:** 8 Jun 2009, 02:54 pm »

Ok a question

how does an b-60 sst compare to a b100 sst soundwise ??

is there much difference in build between the used intergrated pre and poweramp ?

In the near future i can try a b-100 sst at home because i,m still not happy with the b-60

Daffy

btw here's a new review of the b-60 sst from what hifi mag. http://www.whathifi.com/Review/Bryston-B60R/

James Tanner · « **Reply #51 on:** 8 Jun 2009, 03:33 pm »

Quote from: daffy on 8 Jun 2009, 02:54 pm

Ok a question

how does an b-60 sst compare to a b100 sst soundwise ??

is there much difference in build between the used intergrated pre and poweramp ?

In the near future i can try a b-100 sst at home because i,m still not happy with the b-60

Daffy

btw here's a new review of the b-60 sst from what hifi mag. http://www.whathifi.com/Review/Bryston-B60R/

Hi Daffy,

Thanks for the link to the new B60 review - I will start a new topic.

james

daffy · « **Reply #52 on:** 8 Jun 2009, 04:11 pm »

Hi james

can you tell me what to expect between the b-60 and b-100 soundwise ?

Daffy

James Tanner · « **Reply #53 on:** 8 Jun 2009, 04:26 pm »

Quote from: daffy on 8 Jun 2009, 04:11 pm

Hi james

can you tell me what to expect between the b-60 and b-100 soundwise ?

Daffy

Hi Daffy,

I have always felt that given your system and issues with the B60 that the B100 was really the unit you should have. The B100 just sounds much more controlled and spacial due to the fact it has twice the power of the B60.

james

daffy · « **Reply #54 on:** 27 Aug 2009, 03:38 pm »

Hello again,

I had a b-100 at home for a week to see if this was the solution for my "problems" with the b-60, the answer is a big nope.

There was a very small difference between the two , the b-100 had a tiny,tiny bit more sparkle and slam but the sound was still as flat as a pancake.
so just as i personally thought more power was not the solution, just like the b60 pre with a 2b sst end before made no big difference. (sorry James)

So it's sad

to say out goes the Bryston b-60 and in comes the Symphonic line rg14 edition.
coupled with the bcd-1 in my setup there is so much more depth, space,magic,emotion, involvement etc. with the symphonic line , it's almost unbelievable.
Even the wife thinks so and she couldn't care less, so the difference is certainly not subtle.

I really tried hard to like the the sound of the b-60 (and b100,b60pre+2bsst) but it just didn't work for me.
Probably my Kef's don't match that well with Bryston amps

???

or maybe i'm not ready for the Bryston sound

http://www.symphonic-line.com/product_integrated_poweramplifier_rg9_rg10_rg14_rg14edition.html

Daffy

daffy · « **Reply #55 on:** 1 Dec 2010, 09:31 pm »

it has been a long hard and expensive ride but im finally VERY HAPPY with.......

Marantz: pm-11 s2 and sa-11 s2

I really tried but in the end Bryston didn't work for me.

sorry James

daffy

James Tanner · « **Reply #56 on:** 1 Dec 2010, 09:41 pm »

No problem - ENJOY!

james

Ozi · « **Reply #57 on:** 1 Dec 2010, 10:23 pm »

Daffy,

great news that you are finally satisfied with your sound.
I really don't want to spoil your joy, correct me if I am wrong, but I think you're found some elements in Marantz sound more appealing than Bryston at the moment. That doesn't mean that Marantz would be better for you lately. It is very good idea to give a chance for any new amplifier to come on song. Some need some more time to finally open up.
Why not to ask Bryston dealer to properly burn in amp so you can give it a second chance, just like that (?)
Buying expensive gear should not be impulsive and patient is very welcome.

Sorry if my post is too much 'directed', but I have some miles in my legs.

Best,
Oz

rob80b · « **Reply #58 on:** 1 Dec 2010, 10:49 pm »

Quote from: daffy on 1 Dec 2010, 09:31 pm

it has been a long hard and expensive ride but im finally VERY HAPPY with.......

Marantz: pm-11 s2 and sa-11 s2

I really tried but in the end Bryston didn't work for me.

sorry James

daffy

As James said, enjoy.

I've one of these still in my roster and still working 100%

although it went to the sidelines in the 80's after 10+ years of service when the the Bryston .5/2BLP combo arrived.

rob80b · « **Reply #59 on:** 1 Dec 2010, 11:22 pm »

Quote from: daffy on 1 Dec 2010, 09:31 pm

it has been a long hard and expensive ride but im finally VERY HAPPY with.......

Marantz: pm-11 s2 and sa-11 s2

daffy

Hi Daffy

As you said it has been a long road but I think most of us who tried to help way back yonder are still scratching our heads wondering why.
But the Marantz works for you and that is what counts.

Robert