[Hicks]

Definitely Eric Dolphy, Ornette Coleman, Sun Ra and Miles Davis. 

Also Archie Shepp and Pharoah Sanders. 

John Zorn if you want to get really out there. 


ugh, sorry for the double post, how come we can't delete posts here?

[giantsteps]

I'm a dyed in the wool classical guy, but recently I've been trying to get into jazz.  One of the few artists I've connected with is John Coltrane.  Specifically the late Trane, the cerebral, punishing Trane.  The crazy, agitatated Trane.  I love it.  And I'm looking for more stuff like this, so please suggest away....

 
 Keith Jarrett


 One thing I learned at a tender age is that there is a risk factor when you strike up a conversation with ANY artist. Appreciate their artistry and leave it at that. I was very fortunate to have comped behind some lovely female singers and they made their priorities quite clear.... just STFU Frank and play and make love to me.


Miles.            I regret ever striking up a conversation with him(very few). But he was a genius. Witness his choice of sidemen ...Quintets over the years and every single one of them are/were successful in their own right.

Coltrane.........Every time I felt like playing Body and Soul the bass player would ask...traditional or Trane.

Tyson, you have excellent suggestions here.

I would like to add the following.. Do you know the song Body and Soul? Listen to Coltrane's 1st version when he introduced some chord changes. Then listen to Body and Soul on the album "Live in Seattle" . What a beautiful trip he took!!

A reminder....over and over and over again.....listen to Keith Jarrett.



Frank           

[rockadanny]

Seriously - your best bet, and I'd lay money on it (if I had any) would be ... Pharoah Sanders.
Karma (for abso-damn-lutely!) ... The Creator Has a Master Plan, to be track specific. This 32 plus minute track WILL satisfy your thirst!!
Also then get Rejoice.
Pharoah, like later Coltrane, is a spiritually-inspired genius. I say more so than anyone else I can think of. Yusef Lateef is sort of there as well. But Pharoah is the Master. Listen to "The Creator Has a Master Plan" and tell me I'm wrong.
I DOUBLE DARE YA!

[lonewolfny42]

Your journey can start here.....

[jimdgoulding]

Your journey can start here.....

[giantsteps]

 http://www.amazon.com/Love-Supreme-Story-Coltranes-Signature/dp/0142003522/ref=cm_cmu_up_add_glance


 Frank

[giantsteps]

 http://www.thecoltranehome.org/

 http://www.johncoltrane.com/


 Frank

[Wally King]

Love at first hear.  Of course you have to realize that I love Shostakovich, Stravinsky, Ligeti, Crumb, Riley, Adams, Schoenberg, Bartok, and Reich, so the love for Trane should come as no surprise.

On the subject of saxophone players, Sonny Rollins is certainly one of the greatest in all of jazz history, and he's still going at it. Here are links to audio samples of some representative Rollins works, going back 50 years:

Saxophone Colossus: flat-out classic.
http://www.amazon.com/Saxophone-Colossus-Sonny-Rollins/dp/B000EGDAI4/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1222862085&sr=8-1

East Broadway Rundown: from the mid-60's, not one of Rollins' most recommended works by the critics, but a personal fave of mine; the long title track gets into an eerie drone/trance thing; with Elvin Jones and Jimmy Garrison.
http://music.barnesandnoble.com/East-Broadway-Run-Down/Sonny-Rollins/e/011105016124/?itm=34

Night At The Village Vanguard: a trio session with Elvin jones on drums:
http://www.amazon.com/Night-Village-Vanguard-Sonny-Rollins/dp/B00000K4GJ/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1222862085&sr=8-3

Way Out West: a remarkable display of how trite, banal pop tunes can be totally transformed into true art; and, since we are audiophiles after all, an outstanding, lifelike recording from the mid-50s that almost sounds like it was recorded yesterday.
http://www.amazon.com/Way-Out-West-Sonny-Rollins/dp/B000000YIQ/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1222862342&sr=1-4

Tyson, judging from some of the modern classical composers you mentioned, I'd also recommend investigating the jazz musicians that came out of Chicago's Association for the Advancement of Creative Musicians (AACM) in the 60s: the Art Ensemble of Chicago (specifically Joseph Jarman, Lester Bowie and Roscoe Mitchell), Muhal Richard Abrams, Anthony Braxton, Leroy Jenkins and Henry Threadgill, to name a few. In general, the Chicago movement's music was distinguished from the other 60s avante garde types by the Chicagoans use of space, dynamics and color in the music, rather than coming across as if trying to play the most notes the loudest and fastest.

Anyway, it's a big musical world out there.

[giantsteps]

Love at first hear.  Of course you have to realize that I love Shostakovich, Stravinsky, Ligeti, Crumb, Riley, Adams, Schoenberg, Bartok, and Reich, so the love for Trane should come as no surprise.

On the subject of saxophone players, Sonny Rollins is certainly one of the greatest in all of jazz history, and he's still going at it. Here are links to audio samples of some representative Rollins works, going back 50 years:

Saxophone Colossus: flat-out classic.
http://www.amazon.com/Saxophone-Colossus-Sonny-Rollins/dp/B000EGDAI4/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1222862085&sr=8-1

East Broadway Rundown: from the mid-60's, not one of Rollins' most recommended works by the critics, but a personal fave of mine; the long title track gets into an eerie drone/trance thing; with Elvin Jones and Jimmy Garrison.
http://music.barnesandnoble.com/East-Broadway-Run-Down/Sonny-Rollins/e/011105016124/?itm=34

Night At The Village Vanguard: a trio session with Elvin jones on drums:
http://www.amazon.com/Night-Village-Vanguard-Sonny-Rollins/dp/B00000K4GJ/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1222862085&sr=8-3

Way Out West: a remarkable display of how trite, banal pop tunes can be totally transformed into true art; and, since we are audiophiles after all, an outstanding, lifelike recording from the mid-50s that almost sounds like it was recorded yesterday.
http://www.amazon.com/Way-Out-West-Sonny-Rollins/dp/B000000YIQ/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1222862342&sr=1-4

Tyson, judging from some of the modern classical composers you mentioned, I'd also recommend investigating the jazz musicians that came out of Chicago's Association for the Advancement of Creative Musicians (AACM) in the 60s: the Art Ensemble of Chicago (specifically Joseph Jarman, Lester Bowie and Roscoe Mitchell), Muhal Richard Abrams, Anthony Braxton, Leroy Jenkins and Henry Threadgill, to name a few. In general, the Chicago movement's music was distinguished from the other 60s avante garde types by the Chicagoans use of space, dynamics and color in the music, rather than coming across as if trying to play the most notes the loudest and fastest.

Anyway, it's a big musical world out there.

 Ah yes...........I remember it well. 1958. My first trip to New York. Constellation ...22 hours from Sao Paulo, Br to NY. The shock in the salesman's face at Sam Goody's as I thrust my list of 200 LP's!!!! And he said WOW you sure know your stuff ........Saxophone Colossus is at the top of the list!!


 As a side note the reason why Sonny took a 2 year break to reflect and study the sax under the Brooklin Bridge was after he heard JColtrane's "A love Supreme".


Frank

[giantsteps]

http://www.sonnyrollins.com/


 Frank