Phase Splitter Circuits

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Phase Splitter Circuits
« on: 20 Sep 2008, 12:54 pm »
Does anybody have a favorite phase splitter design? I imagine the Long Tailed Pair is a favorite but wanted to know what others believe.

JoshK

Re: Phase Splitter Circuits
« Reply #1 on: 20 Sep 2008, 01:46 pm »
I haven't compared, so I can't say. 

andrewbee

Re: Phase Splitter Circuits
« Reply #2 on: 21 Sep 2008, 07:28 pm »
I'm working on an old, much aligned, hopelessly unbalanced, can never work properly, floating paraphase using a 12AX7 :nono:  :thumb: (Haflers low power Dynaco Circuit)

If I ever get it finished I will let you know.

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Re: Phase Splitter Circuits
« Reply #3 on: 21 Sep 2008, 09:39 pm »
Personally, I find the cathodyne the most technically appealing in a general sense.  It is very simple and transparent, and balance is determined by the resistors rather than the tube being used.  For any non-class-A load, however, they need a proper differential amp as buffer (Williamson style).  Dynaco circuit doesn't cut it IMHO for class AB.

The long-tailed pair with a CCS cathode load, however, is hard to fault and my next amp will use this approach. 

I also like the plate-follower paraphase used in the Lafayette 550 amp - in theory it can have lower distortion than a cathodyne and has twice the gain - but introduces more variables in terms of balance and phase shift. 

I'd consider an input transformer, but the cost is too high for truly good ones (high-nickel Cinemag, etc.).

The only one I am not comfortable with is the conventional paraphase - since it has the most variability in balance.   (Sorry Andrew! - certainly they can work, but need a balance pot to really get it right - I trust you'll pull it off somehow :D)

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Re: Phase Splitter Circuits
« Reply #4 on: 22 Sep 2008, 06:41 pm »
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The only one I am not comfortable with is the conventional paraphase - since it has the most variability in balance.   (Sorry Andrew! - certainly they can work, but need a balance pot to really get it right - I trust you'll pull it off somehow

Exactly. The reason I am doing it is because no one likes it because of the balance issue which as you say is "fixable" with a pot. I want to hear what it sounds like to compare with other phase inversion techniques.
Got to agree with you on the Cathodyne, elegant in its simplicity, give it equal resistors and the balance is automatic.

Andrew

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Re: Phase Splitter Circuits
« Reply #5 on: 22 Sep 2008, 06:55 pm »
I'm going to try a Schmitt style phase splitter in a new design soon. My present design is similar, but it's time to try something new. I also want to try using an interstage transformer running off of a 6V6 or El84.

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Re: Phase Splitter Circuits
« Reply #6 on: 22 Sep 2008, 07:11 pm »
I came across this while searching for a site that had some 'pictures' of the various circuits.  {warning, site has pop-ups}


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Re: Phase Splitter Circuits
« Reply #7 on: 22 Sep 2008, 07:17 pm »
For people's reference, this was what I was looking for.  I know I had seen it once before.

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Re: Phase Splitter Circuits
« Reply #8 on: 22 Sep 2008, 08:06 pm »
Oh Yeah! That's a great site. I was looking for another site today that has a phase splitterless push-pull design. I actually made several without a phase splitter and they work great. One power tube is referenced to ground and the voltage swings from the cathode resistor are what drive it. I'm still perfecting it- but it does indeed work.