Wall mount speakers

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Qwertyzor

Wall mount speakers
« on: 16 Sep 2008, 09:21 pm »
Despite some initial reservations about cost, I am opening up to using SongSurrounds, but I totally forgot to look into how they wall mounted. It looks like they don't. Is that correct? How about ceiling mounting? (for what I'm looking at, the side surrounds need to be wall mounted, but the rears might be ideally ceiling mounted) If so, how much does it cost to get the custom wall mount ones? How much time would it take to get those?



R Swerdlow

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Re: Wall mount speakers
« Reply #1 on: 16 Sep 2008, 11:59 pm »
Despite some initial reservations about cost, I am opening up to using SongSurrounds, but I totally forgot to look into how they wall mounted...

Look these over for wall mount hardware suitable for SongSurroundIs.  Find out their weight and avoid the lightweight mounting hardware.

http://www.partsexpress.com/webpage.cfm?&WebPage_ID=3&Start=1&searchorderby=1&CAT_ID=34&ObjectGroup_ID=372&sm=1&so=1

http://www.racksandstands.com/Speaker-Mounts-C5498.html

DBeistel

Re: Wall mount speakers
« Reply #2 on: 17 Sep 2008, 01:02 am »
Look at this Z bracket

http://www.123frame.net/zbars.html

yooper

Re: Wall mount speakers
« Reply #3 on: 17 Sep 2008, 01:59 am »
I use the B-Tech line.  I really like the fact that that no drilling is required (into speaker), the speaker rest on a solid base and the side mounts adjust to grab and lock your speaker into place, making for a rock solid mount.  The movable side mounts are protected with lining to avoid speaker scratches too.

With my old mounts, I worried about my dog walking into the speaker wire and knocking the speaker onto the floor.  Impossible now...  http://www.amazon.com/B-Tech-BT77-UltraGrip-Speaker-Mounts/dp/B000IGY8WC

Mark

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Re: Wall mount speakers
« Reply #4 on: 17 Sep 2008, 02:16 am »
Many of our customers have had great luck with the B-tech BT77 side clamping wall mount.  It works very well with speakers the size of the SongSurround I's.  As Mark pointed out, they work very well.  Here's another link:
http://www.btech-usa.com/bt77.html

We are also exploring the feasilbilty of developing alternative versions of this speaker to address this sort of situation.

- Jim

Qwertyzor

Re: Wall mount speakers
« Reply #5 on: 18 Sep 2008, 02:17 am »
Thanks, that B-Tech looks good (I really don't want to drill into the speaker). However, I thought I read that the way the songsurrounds were designed they shouldn't be against a wall like that mount will put them? Is that not the case? Or will tilting it downward and away from the wall resolve the problem?

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Re: Wall mount speakers
« Reply #6 on: 18 Sep 2008, 02:44 am »
Thanks, that B-Tech looks good (I really don't want to drill into the speaker). However, I thought I read that the way the songsurrounds were designed they shouldn't be against a wall like that mount will put them? Is that not the case? Or will tilting it downward and away from the wall resolve the problem?

OK   There are a whole lotta issues here.  The Song Surrounds are optimized for stand mounting with the rear port at least a foot from the wall.  Once you start talking about wall mounting, you have a port issue to deal with (which can be solved by porting on the bottom or top, or just sealing the port), and a listening axis issue if they are placed above a normal stand-mounted listening position, and maybe a baffle step compensation issue if they are butted up against the wall.  If you are crossing the surrounds to a sub at, say, 80 Hz, then you can just seal the port.  If you want to run them full range and are expecting the normal amount of bass out of them, then the port will have to be moved.   If they are mounted with the tweeter considerably above ear level, then they should be angled down if you want to hear the response that I designed into them.  But they won't sound weird or bad if you don't bother.  They won't have the mid-treble integration that they might have, but in a surround application, they may be fine.  As for baffle step compensation,  this really only becomes an issue if they are mounted in-wall, with the front baffle flush with the wall.  I've taken measurements of my speakers out several feet from the wall, and up against the wall, and I've done comparative listening--and it makes much less difference than you might think.   It's not something I would worry about.