Group order for Russian Teflon FT-3 0.10uf 600V caps

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tubesforever

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Right now the Hagerman board is looking to group purchase a cool 46 caps.  I will do the ordering for us and charge only actual shipping from me to you.  I am not trying to be a retailer or even a distributor.  I think it is great to get a slightly better price for large orders and combine the shipping.  If anyone needs any K40Y9 PIO caps please let me know as well.  These take 5-7 weeks from the Ukraine.  I will require payment in advance of my order since we are going so large!

On my last order I paid just under 8 dollars per cap including the shipping expense.  Who knows maybe we can get these great Teflons for around 5-6 dollars???  hopefully not wishful thinking!  American Teflons of this quality often go from 75 to 150 dollars per cap!

Please email me at jim_howard_pdx@yahoo.com.  I will have pricing for you today.

If I am breaking any rules, please forgive me.  It is ok to remove this post if it is not proper.  I will modify it any way required to properly conform.  Again I am not a retailer or distributor.  Simply looking to save everyone a dime or more! 

tubesforever

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Re: Group order for Russian Teflon FT-3 0.10uf 600V caps
« Reply #1 on: 28 Aug 2008, 01:52 pm »
Great news from the Eastern Front.....

My Ukrainian source is offering FT-3 in bulk for 4.06 cents each which includes the shipping to my address.  So if you want to try some FT-3 caps please email me immediately.  I have some information I will send back to you this evening when I get home from work.  I plan to order these Saturday morning so please get back to me right away.  My email address is on the post above this one.

Cheers!

ronpod

Re: Group order for Russian Teflon FT-3 0.10uf 600V caps
« Reply #2 on: 30 Aug 2008, 04:40 pm »
Jim,
Thanks for organizing this group buy! The FT-3 Teflon cap has to be one of the best bargins currently available. You have previous experience with this cap; what was your burn-in procedure (assuming you used one)? I have become recently aware that Teflon harbors "hidden" charges that must be neutralized by a long burn-in period and also requires warm up time each power up cycle. Have you noticed this with your components that use the FT-3? Teflon caps are considered the best for quality of audio (V-cap Teflons come to mind), so many audiophiles that have them just leave their equipment on all the time. I am excited to use these caps from this group buy! Just wishing to enjoy their benefits as quickly as possible.

Thanks,
Ron.

BobM

Re: Group order for Russian Teflon FT-3 0.10uf 600V caps
« Reply #3 on: 30 Aug 2008, 07:01 pm »
I simply wired them up to RCA's (male on one end and female on the other) then placed them on the RCA out of my CD player, then through the interconnect and to the preamp. Then just let the CD player run for about a week, changing disks every day to get a variety of music through them). You can actually hear them change that way also, if you want.

Bob

tubesforever

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Re: Group order for Russian Teflon FT-3 0.10uf 600V caps
« Reply #4 on: 30 Aug 2008, 07:05 pm »
Ron this project has consumed a good 12 hours of my time now!  At least it is a labor of love.  

When I first soldered in my FT-3 caps, I was working with my Hagerman Clarinet's final output cap.  When I turned on some music it sounded louder than before based on the position of the stepped attenuator I was using.  I thought this was an interesting start.  

I do my cap evaluations playing a specific CD.  This is a Telark CD of Louis Lane conducting the Atlanta Symphony of Copeland's Fanfare for a Common Man.  

This recording has both Tympani and Gong for the opening and most preamps simply crumble into an abyss trying to keep up with the demands of this piece.  They might get the volume right for the strikes but then have nothing left to resolve the harmonic interchange.  Other caps might get the harmonics pretty good but cannot hit the volume.  In my experience no cap had ever been able to get the volume, the dynamics, and keep the soundstage fully intact.  

Well the Clarinet held on for the ride without a single hiccup, gulp or gasp and this has to be THE ultimate iron test for any capacitor.  

I was dumb struck.  Really, I think I played that opening some 4 or 5 times in a row at different volumes just to see if I was imagining things.  The sound stage never shrank and the harmonics of the gong and tympani were easy to hear during that difficult passage.  If you will also try the Vishay S102 nudes you will actually hear the tympani head quiver and then shimmer as the drum strokes decay.  This is something I have not heard as well conveyed even by the expensive preamps I have heard lately.  

Jim Hagerman is doing some pretty cleaver things!

I was really impressed for a couple hours.  Then I began to hear what I thought was distortion in the upper midrange.  At about 2-4 khz something somewhat to an AM radio drifting out of center tune.  
  
I took them out however now all those awesome dynamics and harmonic transient details were gone!  The Clarinet went back to being a solid midfi line stage.  I called a couple of friends and they recommended I solder them back in and enjoy some music at nominal volume while the caps break in.  None of us guessed how much time it would take but I can say now that 10-20 hours is all that you need.

Actually the distortion disappeared in about 1 and 5 hours time.  After about 20 hours I thought someone had stolen the caps out of the case.  They sonically disappear.

I play my system almost every night but I do not leave my equipment turned on while I am away.  It takes about 1 hour for the Clarinet to sound superb.  After about 4 hours on time, my Clarinet and Cornet 2 get down and groove.  They become world class pieces.  They have beat out 7-10k dollar line and phono stages and I consider these other pieces to be world class phono/preamps.  

I have not heard sonic nasties from these caps.  Perhaps the other Teflons have issues, the FT-3 do not.    

I know a couple of my friends who like to burn in their caps before soldering them onto the PCB.  I figure if you give them about 10-20 hours you will have a nice sounding FT-3s.  

The little bit of upper midrange distortion I mentioned is really not an issue or a problem.  It is kind of like being between radio stations on an analog AM tuner.  It will not harm your speakers.  Just play them at normal listening value and they will simply disappear over time.  

I played my Cornet 2 against some big top name pieces and not a single phono came even close to the dynamics and clarity of the C2.  Jim Hagerman deserves a huge round of applause.  Not only is the sound clean, clear, and dynamic, it is also timbrally accurate, involving and emotional.  I can only say that with the right parts and pieces the Hagermans get everything right.  

For those others that enjoy reading and following these posts, if you own only a C2 my recommendation is to consider the Clarinet for your next project.  The Clarinet is actually the stand out piece of my system.  With it all my sources sound superb, and the Cornet 2 is allowed full breathing room to do its magic.  


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Re: Group order for Russian Teflon FT-3 0.10uf 600V caps
« Reply #5 on: 4 Sep 2008, 06:43 am »
 :D

The caps were paid for this Morning.  I had to get a fully itemized invoice showing insured shipping before I was willing to release the cash.

The vendor is claiming 3-4 weeks delivery by air mail.  I guess this means they are using wind up rubber banded model aircraft to ship the boxes to the US. 

I will let you know when these arrive! 8)

randytsuch

Re: Group order for Russian Teflon FT-3 0.10uf 600V caps
« Reply #6 on: 4 Sep 2008, 02:36 pm »
Thanks for spending all the time to organize this, and thanks in advance for distributing all of the caps.:D

Randy

ronpod

Re: Group order for Russian Teflon FT-3 0.10uf 600V caps
« Reply #7 on: 4 Sep 2008, 06:55 pm »
I, too, express thanks for your time and effort to bring us this superb opportunity! The delivery time frame probably includes clearance through Customs.

BobM

Re: Group order for Russian Teflon FT-3 0.10uf 600V caps
« Reply #8 on: 6 Sep 2008, 06:09 pm »

Thanks again for pulling this together. I now have a fall audio project to look forward to.

Bob

flocchini

Re: Group order for Russian Teflon FT-3 0.10uf 600V caps
« Reply #9 on: 8 Sep 2008, 11:34 pm »
I also want to thank you publicly for organizing this group purchase. I have already used the FT-3 to bypass the Dynamicaps in my Castanet. I plan to use the next set with my Octal Chime and Cornet2. Also I am thinking about using them in a Piccolo. Obviously they wouldn't fit in the case Jim developed the project for but that's OK. Looking forward to the caps. Best