OT: What do you do when you run out of things to upgrade?

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Why...upgrade some things you don't really need to, of course!

In the course of the last 12 months I have bought the following and then some:

1. Tube preamp
2. 300B tube mono block amps
3. Universal Denon DVD Player
4. Rega P7 Turntable
5. Omega Max Hemp and Deep Hemp Combo

Essentially, I have upgraded and/or replaced every component in my audio setup.  I've been very happy with it.  About the only thing that I was thinking about doing was replacing the Denon universal player with a used Esoteric DV-50 if I could find one for the right price.  I'll probably still do that, but not for a while.

Instead I just bought this Sota Star Sapphire vacuum platter turntable and SME 3009 tonearm...



Sorry for the off-topic post.  I think I need to go sign up for an AA meeting (Audioholics Anonymous) or something.  :surrender:

--Jerome
« Last Edit: 22 Jul 2008, 11:08 pm by jsaliga »

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Re: OT: What do you do when you run out of things to upgrade?
« Reply #1 on: 22 Jul 2008, 10:15 pm »
Give some time for things to settle down and actually listen to music.  You know you have nothing to upgrade when your expenses begin to tip towards software instead of HD.   :thumb:

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« Reply #2 on: 22 Jul 2008, 10:25 pm »
Actually I was half kidding.  I've always loved the design of Sota turntables.  I bought my Rega because when I was shopping for an analog setup I could not find a good used Sota, a new one was more than I wanted to spend, and I fell into a pretty good deal for the Rega P7.  Now I fell into a really good deal for a Sota, and I passed along my good deal on the Rega to someone else today.

Believe me when I say I have plenty of music, and equipment expenditures do not affect my music buying.  I am fortunate enough that I can afford to do both.

--Jerome


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« Reply #3 on: 23 Jul 2008, 03:12 pm »
I've been looking at SOTA's too. They're fully suspended which would good for my very flexible wooden floors. Yours looks cherry and it has the suction platter :green: :drool: Looks like solid wood construction with nice finger joints on the corners. Beautiful! :thumb:

-Roy

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Re: OT: What do you do when you run out of things to upgrade?
« Reply #4 on: 23 Jul 2008, 03:18 pm »
Go fishing?  :D
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« Reply #5 on: 23 Jul 2008, 06:35 pm »
 aa  Call up Louis and ask him what's new.  It is usually enough to start me all over again. 

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Re: OT: What do you do when you run out of things to upgrade?
« Reply #6 on: 23 Jul 2008, 07:15 pm »
That happened to me with my road bicycle. So I started on the audio system. After that the bike equipment should be out of date.  This is America - the drive for pointless comsumption can not be suppressed. Buy on.

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« Reply #7 on: 31 Jul 2008, 10:48 pm »
Hi Jerome,

Nice Table. I like the sota. I like the woodwork that goes into them as well.

They do a terrific job and been around a long time.

I usually mod my ride. Got near 280 HP at the wheel of the GTI.

Thanks,
Louis


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« Reply #8 on: 10 Aug 2008, 04:18 pm »
I'm cross posting this from Head-Fi because I am just too tuckered out to write another post.  In short, the Sota turntable has arrived just in case anyone is interested.

A little over a year ago I decided to climb back into vinyl after about a 22 year absence.

When I was shopping for an analog setup I was very taken with the Sota designs.  Head-Fi member mulveling had a thread with some absolutely stunning pictures of his glorious Series II Sota Star Sapphire that was finished in Koa wood and sported a Fidelity Research FR-64fx tonearm.  It was a magnificent piece of work and whenever I had a craving to drool over Sota turntables I always referred to his thread.  Sadly, all of those pictures are gone now.

At that time, I started scouring Audiogon and the for sale postings here and on Vinyl Asylum for a used Sota.  A new Star Sapphire runs about $3,500 and I just couldn't see myself spending that kind of money on a turntable, and then would still be faced with buying a new tonearm for it.  That would have easily put the price at something just shy of $5K for an analog setup, after throwing in a phono preamp.  But I wasn't having a lot of success in my search for a used Sota, and the ones I did find were clearly beat to death.  So I started looking for a used turntable, with a tonearm and a cartridge for about $2,500 or less.  After a short while I found a Rega P7 on Audiogon, which included a low hour Benz Micro Glider H2 MC cartridge.  I was able to snag that entire setup for $1,600.





I know that Regas are not especially well regarded here.  But I thought it was a good deal and figured that if these turntables were just gawd awful then Rega as a company probably wouldn't be in business.  And regardless how shunned Rega turntables might be here at head-fi, they consistently get excellent reviews, so Rega must be doing something right (besides buying advertising space in the hi-fi rags that said reviews appear in from time to time :D ).

Truth be told, I was very happy with the Rega P7 for the year or so that I owned it, and it provided me with hundreds of hours of listening pleasure.  Though I will admit that when I first took the turntable out of the box I was hard pressed to find $2,695 (retail) worth of engineering and design in that deck.  The turntable is spartan by any definition.  When you take the ceramic platter off of the Rega P7, what is left (the plinth, the motor, and the dust cover) probably doesn't weigh much more than 10 pounds.  The platter weighs about 15 pounds.  So it wasn't the most stable of platforms.  But all of that aside, the Rega was capable of making some terrific music and I cannot fault it at all from that perspective.

The opportunity to grab a nice Sota Star Sapphire emerged about 10 days ago.  I found a great looking specimen on Audiogon, at a time when I wasn't really looking for one, from a seller with a great feedback profile.  It was a Series II and looked to be in really nice shape.  The asking price for the deck was $1,399, and the seller had a SME 3009 tonearm and Sota Reflex Record Clamp that he offered to me for an additional $450.  The tonearm did not have the original SME head shell, but I found one on my own from another source.  Suffice it to say that I jumped at the chance and emailed the seller asking for a contact phone number.  We quickly closed the deal for the whole shebang and I put my Rega P7 up for sale.  I priced it to sell and took the Benz Micro Glider cart off since I was planning to mount it to the SME 3009 tonearm on the Sota.  My Rega P7 was sold in less than an hour, I was paid 30 minutes later, and I shipped it out to the new owner the following morning.

The Sota Star Sapphire turntable arrived via UPS today.  And it didn't come a moment too soon.  This has literally been a week from hell for me.  A incredibly stress-filled week at work where very little seemed to go right and some unexpected (though not very serious) health-related issues cropped up.  I really needed something to lift my sagging spirits, which happened when a big truck with the letters UPS emblazoned on its sides pulled into my driveway.

Here is what the driver carried up to my door:







I really love this turntable.  It looks better sitting on my audio rack than it does in these pictures.  This turntable is massive, tipping the scales at about 60 pounds.  The vacuum platter works exactly as advertised.  I took out a slightly warped record, placed it on the platter and powered up the deck.  I could hear the slight whir of the vacuum motor and in about 3 seconds the record was as flat as pancake on the platter.  This is a very nice feature.

I asked memepool for advice about the SME 3009 tonearm and he convinced me to get it.  The price was pretty compelling as a package deal anyway since a Sota Reflex Record Clamp is about $250 new from Sota.  I found the SME 3009 tonearm to be pretty easy to setup, but I also had some help from the seller.  I was adjusting the rider weight when all of a sudden a small white piece of plastic and a small spring fell out of a hole in the rider weight.  I couldn't figure out how to get it put back together.  Thankfully the seller provided some terrific after-the-sale support and got me back on my feet in no time.  Once the weight was remounted, I put the head shell on, checked alignment with a protractor, and then set the VTA, tracking weight, and bias.  Shortly thereafter I was listening to my copy of Bad to the Bone by George Thorogood and I was back into a state of equilibrium and audio nirvana.

Sitting on the floor outside my home office is a box of 140 vinyl records that I bought for $30, and the seller assured me that none of them will grade any lower than VG+.  I went through about 30 records just visually inspecting them and most of them looked very nice, and there are many really great titles: several RCA living stereo first pressings and a number of Columbia Six Eye jazz records.  Some Lionel Hampton, a few Nat King Cole records, but mostly classical music on the Deutsche Grammophon and RCA Victor labels.  I am listening to Pop Concert Favorites on the the RCA Living Stereo/RCA Camden label.  The jacket is a bit worn but the record sounds like it has never even been on a turntable.  And the sound is truly breathtaking.



To me this is what vinyl is really all about.  That is a lesson I learned from Bigshot.  Forget about those overpriced 200g pressings that have more defects than music.  The real treasure is buying a bulk lot of records and finding wonderful stuff that looks virtually unplayed...and realizing that this excellent music only set you back about about a buck or two (or even less).  When you factor in the shipping costs, that box of 140 LPs had a per-record cost of just 74 cents!  Given that, I don't think there is anything that could possibly motivate me to buy another "audiophile" vinyl pressing for between $30 and $50.  There is just too much great music out there to be had for very little money, and it isn't hard to find.

--Jerome
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Re: OT: What do you do when you run out of things to upgrade?
« Reply #9 on: 10 Aug 2008, 04:56 pm »
Congratulations Jerome! It's certainly a beautiful table. :green: 60 lbs :o

It must have been packed very well to arrive via UPS unscathed.

I still have my humble Beogram RX. I figured that I need to accumulate many more LPs before I invest in a really nice rig.

-Roy

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« Reply #10 on: 10 Aug 2008, 05:23 pm »
Thanks Roy.  It's a hernia inducing experience lifting one of these things, but it's rock stable.

The seller did a great job of packing it up.  In fact it was packed so well it probably could have survived an air drop by parachute from a C-130 cargo plane. :D

--Jerome

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« Reply #11 on: 10 Aug 2008, 08:02 pm »
That's really nice set up. :thumb: I also find myself back into vinyl after twenty some years. I just started to figure out where and how high on the TT food chain i can go. Used is going to be the road for me also. I unpacked my vinyl from storage this weekend that i pack up years a go so know i have 500 <> albums siting around Spin a few for me\

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« Reply #12 on: 31 Oct 2008, 03:27 am »
I just got this because I thought it would look nice next to my Max Hemps...  :thumb:



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« Reply #13 on: 31 Oct 2008, 11:49 am »
I just got this because I thought it would look nice next to my Max Hemps...  :thumb:





    Oh, take me back to my dim distant youth!  The TT and the open reel is true "Audio Porn" 
    Does anyone else share my belief that this discussion of vintage equipment on the Omega Forum is because Omegas are a throwback to the best part of vintage sound?  The time when components bore the stamp of the individual designer, and it was music not measurements that was the goal? 
    Is not Louis figuring out a way to bring back Alnico Drivers part and parcel of this? 
    Omegas sound great with vintage equipment; and I mean this as the highest form of praise. 
    Keep those pictures coming; their great. 

                                                  ZLS



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« Reply #14 on: 1 Nov 2008, 04:42 pm »
Oh, take me back to my dim distant youth!  The TT and the open reel is true "Audio Porn."  Does anyone else share my belief that this discussion of vintage equipment on the Omega Forum is because Omegas are a throwback to the best part of vintage sound?  The time when components bore the stamp of the individual designer, and it was music not measurements that was the goal?  Is not Louis figuring out a way to bring back Alnico Drivers part and parcel of this?  Omegas sound great with vintage equipment; and I mean this as the highest form of praise.  Keep those pictures coming; their great. 

ZLS

Hi Zack,

I hear ya!

The main reason I snagged this Akai is because of some recordings I bought from High Definition Tape Transfers (see the music thread).  Their recordings are all made from 1/4" R2R tapes that have fallen into the public domain.  They then re-master and encode them in 24/96 digital audio.  I have bought four of their recordings so far and the sound quality is simply jaw dropping.  So I did a little checking and found there are a lot of pre-recorded commercial tapes out there to be had at affordable prices for classical music lovers.  If you're looking for Led Zeppelin or The Who on R2R they can be found, but man are the prices really up there (ex. Led Zeppelin III on R2R recorded at 7ips for a staggering $140).

I was looking to do it on the cheap.  The Akai GX-635D shown set me back $600, add about another $100 for some tapes to record with and empty 7" and 10.5" take up reels.  I didn't think that was too cost prohibitive.  There are three places that I found that refurbish and service vintage reel-to-reel gear, so I felt pretty good about the purchase.  The deck should be here by mid week next week, and I have also bought a few pre-recorded tapes that should arrive at about the same time.  I'll comment further once I have taken the deck for a test drive.  It should be fun.

And I have to agree with your sentiment about vintage gear.  I suppose I could be waxing nostalgic over an era long gone, but I thought that hi-fi was great back then and very affordable.  It's a lot different today, and I am sure that 10 years ago if someone said "in the future you are going to have an audio setup that includes a turntable, a tube driven amp and preamp, and single-driver speakers" I would have suggested that such a person was nuts.

--Jerome

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« Reply #15 on: 1 Nov 2008, 06:17 pm »
Go to Disneyland

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« Reply #16 on: 1 Nov 2008, 06:32 pm »
Naahh.  Disneyland isn't nearly as much fun. ;)

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« Reply #17 on: 10 Nov 2008, 10:18 pm »
Here it is in my room, on a dedicated Salamander 3.0 rack I bought for it.



The tape that is on it is a 4 track tape of Bruno Walter and the Columbia Symphony Orchestra perfoming Beethoven's 5th Symphony.  It is quite possibly the best I have ever heard this performance sound, and I have it on vinyl and CD as well.



Don't let the crappy appearance of the box fool you.  The sound quality of this tape was to die for...

--Jerome

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« Reply #18 on: 10 Nov 2008, 10:28 pm »
Build a room.. Acoustic perfected environment, than almost everybody would stop upgrading
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« Reply #19 on: 10 Nov 2008, 10:36 pm »
I'm not so sure about that.  While I'm not dismissive of the value of room treatments, as far as I am concerned the best way to improve your sound is to improve your source.  This Akai R2R was easy to decide to buy, since it cost a mere fraction of what I spent on my turntable.  So far I have played four commercial tapes on this deck and only one of them was a disappointment.  The rest of them were real stunners.

--Jerome