[zmanbands]

I'm going to get some [up to 10], of these hubbell's. I'm looking at 5262, 8200H, and 8300H. The H standing for no nickel plating. Which is best, 2nd best?

[cryoparts]

8200H and 8300H are essentially the same receptacle, both are hospital grade.  The only difference is the 8200H has a 15A faceplate, the 8300H has a 20A faceplate.

The "H" designates that it is a small bodied receptacle, with no nickel plating, make sure to get the "H" series.  The "regular" 8200I (no "H"), for example, will be nickel plated.  They come in a variety of colors, 8300HI for ivory, 8300HW for white, etc.

Nickel plating is a tough cookie, I think the only receptacle I've heard that I like that utilized nickel is a cryo'd PS Audio.  So, if not getting a PS Audio, you might want to stay away from the nickel plated models.  Strictly IMO, FWIW, IME, and for good measure ETC, ABC, 123, AC3, DTS.   

5262 is a 15A "industrial" receptacle.  5362 is a the 20A version.  Both are built very well;  nice and beefy.  They are huge!  No nickel plating on the contacts.

As to which is "better", they both are good, IMO.  Hubbell's have a very full mid-bass (some say too much) presentation and tend to be very smooth sounding, IME.

Don't forget to take a look at some of the other "audio grade" offerings, for just a bit more $$, from Furutech, PS Audio, Acme, etc...

Disclaimer--I sell Hubbell 8300H's (well at least until I run out, I am not going to re-stock them...) and Furutech.  I do not offer Acme or PS Audio at this time.

Peace,

Lee

I'm going to get some [up to 10], of these hubbell's. I'm looking at 5262, 8200H, and 8300H. The H standing for no nickel plating. Which is best, 2nd best?

[ecramer]

8200H and 8300H are essentially the same receptacle, both are hospital grade.  The only difference is the 8200H has a 15A faceplate, the 8300H has a 20A faceplate.

The "H" designates that it is a small bodied receptacle, with no nickel plating, make sure to get the "H" series.  The "regular" 8200I (no "H"), for example, will be nickel plated.  They come in a variety of colors, 8300HI for ivory, 8300HW for white, etc.

Nickel plating is a tough cookie, I think the only receptacle I've heard that I like that utilized nickel is a cryo'd PS Audio.  So, if not getting a PS Audio, you might want to stay away from the nickel plated models.  Strictly IMO, FWIW, IME, and for good measure ETC, ABC, 123, AC3, DTS.   

5262 is a 15A "industrial" receptacle.  5362 is a the 20A version.  Both are built very well;  nice and beefy.  They are huge!  No nickel plating on the contacts.

As to which is "better", they both are good, IMO.  Hubbell's have a very full mid-bass (some say too much) presentation and tend to be very smooth sounding, IME.

Don't forget to take a look at some of the other "audio grade" offerings, for just a bit more $$, from Furutech, PS Audio, Acme, etc...

Disclaimer--I sell Hubbell 8300H's (well at least until I run out, I am not going to re-stock them...) and Furutech.  I do not offer Acme or PS Audio at this time.

Peace,

Lee

I'm going to get some [up to 10], of these hubbell's. I'm looking at 5262, 8200H, and 8300H. The H standing for no nickel plating. Which is best, 2nd best?

I was wondering what your thoughts were on the Pass and Seymour 8200H, I like the Pass & Seymour 5262-AW AC they definitely have a death grip on your cord.

ED

[cryoparts]

I like the P&S 8200H quite a bit and have sold hundreds of them throughout the years.  I don't carry them any longer as the price kept going up and I would have had to sell them for the same price as the entry level Furutech, which I prefer.  So, I've stopped carrying them for now.

The 5266-X male AC end is a killer piece, isn't it?  I can't give them away   , but I sure like them.   

Lee

8200H and 8300H are essentially the same receptacle, both are hospital grade.  The only difference is the 8200H has a 15A faceplate, the 8300H has a 20A faceplate.

The "H" designates that it is a small bodied receptacle, with no nickel plating, make sure to get the "H" series.  The "regular" 8200I (no "H"), for example, will be nickel plated.  They come in a variety of colors, 8300HI for ivory, 8300HW for white, etc.

Nickel plating is a tough cookie, I think the only receptacle I've heard that I like that utilized nickel is a cryo'd PS Audio.  So, if not getting a PS Audio, you might want to stay away from the nickel plated models.  Strictly IMO, FWIW, IME, and for good measure ETC, ABC, 123, AC3, DTS.   

5262 is a 15A "industrial" receptacle.  5362 is a the 20A version.  Both are built very well;  nice and beefy.  They are huge!  No nickel plating on the contacts.

As to which is "better", they both are good, IMO.  Hubbell's have a very full mid-bass (some say too much) presentation and tend to be very smooth sounding, IME.

Don't forget to take a look at some of the other "audio grade" offerings, for just a bit more $$, from Furutech, PS Audio, Acme, etc...

Disclaimer--I sell Hubbell 8300H's (well at least until I run out, I am not going to re-stock them...) and Furutech.  I do not offer Acme or PS Audio at this time.

Peace,

Lee

I'm going to get some [up to 10], of these hubbell's. I'm looking at 5262, 8200H, and 8300H. The H standing for no nickel plating. Which is best, 2nd best?

I was wondering what your thoughts were on the Pass and Seymour 8200H, I like the  Pass & Seymour 5266-X AC they definitely have a death grip on your cord.

ED

[zmanbands]

Cryo, thanks for your very helpful posts! Does the 5262 have a brass or steel back strap?

[cryoparts]

You are welcome!   

The 5262 can be found with a brass back strap, however, they are really hard to find this way any longer.  Make sure to ask before laying out your green for them. 

Lee

Cryo, thanks for your very helpful posts! Does the 5262 have a brass or steel back strap?

[ecramer]

Ive used those on all 6 of  my homemade cords i have in my system and the two 4 ways i built. They work great

The 5266-X male AC end is a killer piece, isn't it?  I can't give them away   , but I sure like them.   

Lee

[ebag4]

I have an IG 5362 that I am going to install for my 2 channel system, the strap appears to be steel (althought the square headed screw connecting it is brass), why do I care about the strap material?  The ground connection appears to be brass as do the other connection points.  Am I missing something?  The fact that this is an isolated ground receptacle seems to take the strap out of the equation, is this correct?  Thanks for any clarification.

Best,
Ed

[CIAudio]

What I'm wondering for the readers of this thread, is this: Can I install two Channel Islands XDC-2 AC filters in the wall, in place of any of the various outlets being discussed, here? The XDC-2 is designed to be installed in the "stream" of power cord between the outlet and the electronics, and has a female IEC socket on one end for this purpose, but I was thinking that Channel Islands could build me two of these with exposed wires on that end instead of the IEC socket, and I could just put them in the wall.

The XDC-2 is not designed to be an "in-wall" device and is also too large to fit in a standard outlet box...sorry.
Just use high quality outlets at the wall, I prefer Hubbell but there are others as mentioned here. Any additional filters/conditioners needed will usually work best when placed directly before the component being powered.

[zmanbands]

Thanks again Cryo. FWIW I found the 5262 and 8200H[no plating] at onestopshop.com. 5262 at onestop is a Leviton manufacture to the same industrial grade spec as the hubbell 5262. It has a "BRASS STRAP". $14.40, $12.53 if you buy 10 or more. The 8200 is $8.xx, $7.44 for 10 or more. It has a steel strap. I ordered 10 of the 5262 to get the brass strap. Cryo is the leviton just as good as the hubbell 5262?   LINK http://www.onestopbuy.com/5262-8102.asp

[Occam]

Iff'n you're looking for Hubbell hbl5262 or hbl5362 receptacles -
http://www.stayonline.com/nema-3-wire-receptacles-duplex.aspx
scroll down to the bottom of the page where they list industrial/spec grade $12 and $14 respectively and in black, brown and ivory.
These are my fave 5x62 receptacles, among Leviton, Eagle/Cooper, though I've minimal experience with the P&S 5x62A.

Prior to the release of the 8200H/8300H designation hospital grade compact brass connection duplexes by Hubbel, P&S, Cooper/Eagle, P&S offered these as their P&S 9200 and 9300 receptacles. These show up quite often on ebay. Pesonally, I prefer the Hubell hbl8200H.

Sadly, IMO, receptacles make a difference anywhere they're used in AV kit, whether before or after a power conditioner. Also, ones preference is greatly influenced by the powercord connected. For some, I prefer a 5262, others the 8200H. While I like the hbl5262, its certainly understandable that others would make different choices.

FWIW,
Paul

[Wayner]

A slight correction is needed here. A 15 amp receptacle is a NEMA L5-15R. A 20 amp receptacle is a NEMA L5-20R. A 15 amp plug (L5-15P) can be plugged into either a NEMA L5-15R or L5-20R. A NEMA L5-20P plug will not fit into a NEMA L5-15R receptacle. Therefore it is acceptable to use a 20 amp receptacle in a 15 amp circuit (controled by the 15 amp breaker). It is not acceptable to have a 15 amp outlet on a 20 amp breaker. Note: assuming the correct wire gauge is used for either branch circuit.

Wayner

[santacore]

This tweak sounds interesting. Does anyone know of any hospital grade receptacles that come in the more modern flat faced rectangular shape? All the ones I find online are the older style receptacles. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 

[Wayner]

Hubbell make the "Style Line" rectangular outlets (needs large retangular holed faceplate), number 2172I (15a) or 2182I (20a), in ivory or the 2172 or 2182 brown. If you want isolated ground then the number is IG2172I (15a) or IG2182I (20a) in ivory. Orange is also avalible.

Wayner

[santacore]

Thanks Wayner, that looks like what I need. I've also just found one by PS Audio called the power port designer series. Since the PS Audio seems easier to source, does anyone have experience with them?

[TheChairGuy]

Thanks Wayner, that looks like what I need. I've also just found one by PS Audio called the power port designer series. Since the PS Audio seems easier to source, does anyone have experience with them?

Yes, the non-designer version I have of the Power Port.

Any time you move from $0.39 contractor specials to an upgraded port you will benefit from the move.  I have a $10.00 Lowes/Eagle unit, a $36 (cryo'ed) Porter Port and a $50 PS Audio Power Port ...the all were great leaps better than stock.

As far as better than one another among them...that's taste dependent I suspect 

It's a great and totally positive tweek...go for it.

John

[cryoparts]

I'm not sure, I haven't tried the Leviton in a long time.  Just make sure the blades are not nickel plated.

Best,

Lee 

. Cryo is the leviton just as good as the hubbell 5262?   LINK http://www.onestopbuy.com/5262-8102.asp

[cryoparts]

Hmmm...  Double check this please. 

It is my understanding that a 20A receptacle is NOT for use on a 15A breaker.  The reasoning is that a 20A device could be inadvertently hooked up to a 15A rated circuit, draw too much current through the wire (provided the breaker failed and did not trip), heat the wire up and potentially cause a fire.   

I think a 15A "dual gang" receptacle can be used on a 20A circuit, however.

I am not an electrician, though.  I will encourage one of my customers who is to come and clear up the confusion.

Lee 

A slight correction is needed here. A 15 amp receptacle is a NEMA L5-15R. A 20 amp receptacle is a NEMA L5-20R. A 15 amp plug (L5-15P) can be plugged into either a NEMA L5-15R or L5-20R. A NEMA L5-20P plug will not fit into a NEMA L5-15R receptacle. Therefore it is acceptable to use a 20 amp receptacle in a 15 amp circuit (controled by the 15 amp breaker). It is not acceptable to have a 15 amp outlet on a 20 amp breaker. Note: assuming the correct wire gauge is used for either branch circuit.

Wayner

[cryoparts]

OK, everyone just to clarify the below.

According to table 210.21(B)(3) of the NEC code, a 15A branch circuit can only have a 15A receptacle attached.  A 20A branch circuit can have either a 15A or a 20A receptacle attached. 

As the material is copyrighted, I will not cut and paste it, however, if you wish to read the code, please visit:

http://www.nfpa.org/freecodes/free_access_document.asp

...and go to article 210 page 70-51 for the chart.

FYI--While I neither endorse or recommend that a person installs a 20A receptacle on a 15A circuit, it is done all of the time by audiophiles. 

Lee

Hmmm...  Double check this please. 

It is my understanding that a 20A receptacle is NOT for use on a 15A breaker.  The reasoning is that a 20A device could be inadvertently hooked up to a 15A rated circuit, draw too much current through the wire (provided the breaker failed and did not trip), heat the wire up and potentially cause a fire.   

I think a 15A "dual gang" receptacle can be used on a 20A circuit, however.

I am not an electrician, though.  I will encourage one of my customers who is to come and clear up the confusion.

Lee 

A slight correction is needed here. A 15 amp receptacle is a NEMA L5-15R. A 20 amp receptacle is a NEMA L5-20R. A 15 amp plug (L5-15P) can be plugged into either a NEMA L5-15R or L5-20R. A NEMA L5-20P plug will not fit into a NEMA L5-15R receptacle. Therefore it is acceptable to use a 20 amp receptacle in a 15 amp circuit (controled by the 15 amp breaker). It is not acceptable to have a 15 amp outlet on a 20 amp breaker. Note: assuming the correct wire gauge is used for either branch circuit.

Wayner

[cryoparts]

If anyone runs across P&S 9300H's buy them!  If you don't let me know and I will!

Peace,

Lee

P&S 9200 and 9300 receptacles.