ultra DAC evaluation

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Toka

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Re: ultra DAC evaluation
« Reply #20 on: 1 Jun 2008, 01:43 am »
Cool...looking forward to it, Wayner! Still stuck on the OmegaStar diff. vs. the "regular" Ultra stuff...

strat95

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Re: ultra DAC evaluation
« Reply #21 on: 1 Jun 2008, 06:13 am »
Interesting, strat95.  I included the qualifier "unless room and speaker conditions were very favorable" having in mind the particular speakers being used by the original poster, with their finicky placement issues, and his characterization of his listening room as being less than ideal.  I have no doubt that the better the room and associated gear, the easier it becomes to pick out the differences between the two DACs.  (I assume by "Fet Valve DAC" you mean the latest Ultra DAC.)

It was not the Ultra DAC.  It is an older tubed version.  I imagine the Ultra will have that much more improvement.

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strat95

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Re: ultra DAC evaluation
« Reply #22 on: 2 Jun 2008, 05:11 am »
I know Frank considers his current OmegaStar DAC to have obsoleted the older FetValve and Omega DACs, so your finding the older one better is a little curious.

The Omega Star DAC is older than the Fet Valve used in our test.

I have lost track of all incarnations... if it helps, the model used has a serial number starting with 2001, the year it was upgraded.

martyo

Re: ultra DAC evaluation
« Reply #23 on: 2 Jun 2008, 01:08 pm »
Before I bought my Ultra Dac I had my brothers Transcendence R DAC in my system. That was the last version of the $1600 top of the line DAC in the small chassis before the Ultra. Next was the Ultra, followed by the 6N1P upgrade. I actually had it in my system a couple of times, the last time for over a month. (Personally, that is the best way for me to evaluate something, over a period of time.) I was very familiar with the sound of my system with his DAC with all the kinds of music and recordings and situations over 5 weeks. A couple of times I switched the DAC off and WOW, it was hard to believe that was what I was listening to before. Along comes the Ultra.
First, it was as though another veil was removed(as was the case with every piece of AVA gear I've added). My articulate listening buddy commented that it sounded like there was still a bunch of crap there that was now gone with the DAC. The Ultra was more revealing, more extended at the frequency extremes; more open high end and deeper, more powerful, and more defined bass. The Ultra was quicker, and more dynamic. The transients with the Transcendence now sounded  "softened". The "house sound" at AVA is apparent in all the gear. Simply put, it's musical, which puts it in a class above many, regardless of price. As you go up the ladder of gear, you're usually paying for more resolution. (Of course more power costs more) There's a difference between an OmegaStar and an Ultra, just like there is a difference between the Transcendence DAC and the Ultra, both being the top of the line at different times. But they are all very listenable because of the musicality of the sound.