Using a Full Range speaker Cable on a BiWirable speaker

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John Casler

I just came across a suggestion/method of wiring speakers that are "Bi-Wireable" and jumered (meaning the pairs of binding posts are connected) with a Full Range Cable.

First off it suggests running the jumpers between the binding posts aw would normally be run.

However, here is the twist: It suggests running the "red" (-) speaker cable lead to the TREBLE Binding Post, and then running the "black" (+) speaker cable lead to the BASS Binding Posts.

 :scratch:

Strangely enough in all my years I have never seen or heard of this.

I haven't yet tried this to see if there is any difference, but wondered if anyone here has heard of this, or tried it, and what they might have found.

Dan Driscoll

Re: Using a Full Range speaker Cable on a BiWirable speaker
« Reply #1 on: 7 May 2008, 03:25 pm »
I just came across a suggestion/method of wiring speakers that are "Bi-Wireable" and jumered (meaning the pairs of binding posts are connected) with a Full Range Cable.


John, I have to ask, what exactly is a full range speaker cable? By definition, all speaker cables must be "full range". Any that is not full range is no longer a cable, it's a filter.

Dan Driscoll

Re: Using a Full Range speaker Cable on a BiWirable speaker
« Reply #2 on: 7 May 2008, 03:34 pm »
First off it suggests running the jumpers between the binding posts aw would normally be run.

However, here is the twist: It suggests running the "red" (-) speaker cable lead to the TREBLE Binding Post, and then running the "black" (+) speaker cable lead to the BASS Binding Posts.

 :scratch:

Strangely enough in all my years I have never seen or heard of this.

I haven't yet tried this to see if there is any difference, but wondered if anyone here has heard of this, or tried it, and what they might have found.

Since the both red terminals are jumpered together, as are both black terminals, they are electrically common. As long as red goes to red and back goes to black, which specific red or black terminal you hook the wire up to is irrelevant. Sorry, but the whole thing shrieks of marketing bullshit.  :thumbdown:

Sonny

Re: Using a Full Range speaker Cable on a BiWirable speaker
« Reply #3 on: 7 May 2008, 03:49 pm »
I too have never heard such a method for bi-wired binding post with one set of cables...
However, it would not really matter as long as you're not mixing the red and black...

I however, would always connect the speaker cables to the Woofer Binding posts and then jump from the Woofer to Tweeters.

Also, I've never heard of a full range set of speaker cables... :scratch:
They should all be "Full Range"


John Casler

Re: Using a Full Range speaker Cable on a BiWirable speaker
« Reply #4 on: 7 May 2008, 04:24 pm »
By "Full Range" they mean "not bi-wired" at the speaker end.

That is:  Some speaker cable manufacturers separate their wiring on a "single biwired cable" (one that is single at the amp end and bi-wired at the speaker end) in such a way as to (supposedly) offer a preferable set of terminals for the bass, and same for the bass.

May be marketing BS as Dan stated, alsthough it wasn't "hyped" in the brochure, but suggested as a slightly better connection method.

Sooner or later I will get around to trying it, but since I had never seen this suggestion before, I thought maybe I had been "asleep to it" and everyone else already knew it. :lol: :lol:

John Casler

Re: Using a Full Range speaker Cable on a BiWirable speaker
« Reply #5 on: 7 May 2008, 04:31 pm »
Maybe to be more clear:

Full Range = Single + and - termination at both ends

Single BiWire = Single at amp end, and separate or Dual bass and treble at speaker end

Full Bi-Wire = two completley separate cables for each bass and treble with Dual + and - terminations at each end.

Sonny

Re: Using a Full Range speaker Cable on a BiWirable speaker
« Reply #6 on: 7 May 2008, 04:54 pm »
Still, as long as the ends are connect in phase, it should not matter where you connect it to on the speaker end.  The single (1 set of + & -) at the amp end is just for convinience.  If you had four channel of amps, then you are truly bi-amping and would need 2 separate runs of speaker cables per side so you can connect one run to the woofer and the other to the tweeter.
 :thumb:

some young guy

Re: Using a Full Range speaker Cable on a BiWirable speaker
« Reply #7 on: 7 May 2008, 05:07 pm »
However, here is the twist: It suggests running the "red" (-) speaker cable lead to the TREBLE Binding Post, and then running the "black" (+) speaker cable lead to the BASS Binding Posts.

 :scratch:

Strangely enough in all my years I have never seen or heard of this.

I haven't yet tried this to see if there is any difference, but wondered if anyone here has heard of this, or tried it, and what they might have found.

There was some chatter about this hook-up method over at AA a few years ago. Some claimed to hear improvements, but I never got around to trying it personally.