Help: I have no Patricia Barber; is that good or bad?

giantsteps · « **Reply #80 on:** 21 Apr 2008, 02:34 am »

Quote from: Scott F. on 20 Apr 2008, 03:24 pm

Exsqueeze me........ManHOLE

....as for allowing females in my manCAVE, sure, I allow lots of them. It just so happens the ones that play here on a regular basis all have talent

Chris, are you aware that I was referring to the talented teaser trailer guests mentioned above?

Frank

lonewolfny42 · « **Reply #81 on:** 21 Apr 2008, 02:39 am »

Quote from: giantsteps on 21 Apr 2008, 02:34 am

Quote from: Scott F. on 20 Apr 2008, 03:24 pm
Exsqueeze me........ManHOLE

....as for allowing females in my manCAVE, sure, I allow lots of them. It just so happens the ones that play here on a regular basis all have talent

Chris, are you aware that I was referring to the talented teaser trailer guests mentioned above?

Frank

The more the merrier....

(That was also a movie...

)

giantsteps · « **Reply #82 on:** 21 Apr 2008, 02:51 am »

Chris, since you mentioned it at Bugleboy's I'd be happy to play a few bars at Phil's but I'd like to take my Roland RD 700 SX w/ spks and if Gary or anyone else wants to play...enjoy. Don't forget, blues in G with unexpected changes.

Frank

lonewolfny42 · « **Reply #83 on:** 21 Apr 2008, 02:56 am »

Quote from: giantsteps on 21 Apr 2008, 02:51 am

Chris, since you mentioned it at Bugleboy's I'd be happy to play a few bars at Phil's but I'd like to take my Roland RD 700 SX w/ spks and if Gary or anyone else wants to play...enjoy. Don't forget, blues in G with unexpected changes.

Frank

Sounds good to me Frank....

(G-C-D)

rajacat · « **Reply #84 on:** 21 Apr 2008, 03:07 am »

Quote from: lonewolfny42 on 21 Apr 2008, 02:14 am

Quote from: Scott F. on 20 Apr 2008, 03:24 pm
Exsqueeze me........ManHOLE

....as for allowing females in my manCAVE, sure, I allow lots of them. It just so happens the ones that play here on a regular basis all have talent

Just to clarify....

This is a Man HOLE....

And....this is a Man CAVE...which is Scott's....nice digs...

Gee.... I wish I had a manhole er......manCAVE

like that.

I'm jealous.

lonewolfny42 · « **Reply #85 on:** 21 Apr 2008, 03:13 am »

Oh....and this is a Pot HOLE in NY....

(notice the warning sign....ah....piece of lumber warning sign...

)

giantsteps · « **Reply #86 on:** 21 Apr 2008, 03:18 am »

And I thought that the potholes here in Jersey were bad!

Frank

slinco · « **Reply #87 on:** 21 Apr 2008, 01:57 pm »

Hi Folks -
Count me as another P. Barber fan. Cafe Blue, Nightclub, and Fortnight in France are in my collection, and I'm sure I'll pick up some more as time goes by. Patricia's great to have in your collection if you're a listener of many moods.

I'm a bit surprised this conversation seems to be focused on her singing style and lyric writing - she's also a pretty terrific pianist. And the other guy's she plays with are absolutely STELLAR musicians. It doesn't get any better than those guys (and also her "guest" musicians like Charlie Hunter).

As far as the sound quality of her recordings, they're uniformly excellent, although I don't buy them for that reason. Fortnight in France is definitely on the bright side though....

In the end, I guess what I like best about her music is that it's a bit different, and performed with incredible musicianship. I tire very quickly of straight ahead "traditional" female jazz singers like Jane Monheit and Tierney Sutton. There's nothing wrong with them, I just find it all a bit bland and boring after a song or two. To varying degrees most of the female jazz singers today are the same old thing done by a different voice. I never have that problem with Patricia Barber - her music is wonderfully unique, and I love her for it....

Steve

rydenfan · « **Reply #88 on:** 21 Apr 2008, 02:08 pm »

Ted, I did not bother reading through the entire thread but I can easy send you a few FLAC discs of hers if you want?

ecramer · « **Reply #89 on:** 21 Apr 2008, 02:16 pm »

I'm sure Ms Barber and Impulse records would love you to do that

Quote from: rydenfan on 21 Apr 2008, 02:08 pm

Ted, I did not bother reading through the entire thread but I can easy send you a few FLAC discs of hers if you want?

Bob in St. Louis · « **Reply #90 on:** 5 May 2008, 08:10 pm »

Ted, did you ever get any Patricia Barber?

I received mine the other day. "Verse" is the name of the album. It's somekinda' promo "not for resale" type CD, so I don't know if it was ever released.
Regarding my opinion......um....... She's a train wreck.

What Slinco (Steve) said a few posts ago regarding the positive aspects of her music I would say are right on the mark. Sound quality, musicians, etc... Are all top notch.
Regarding her voice, well..... It's a wonderful voice in my opinion. However, (at least on this release, I assume they're all the same) she doesn't SING most of her music, she says the lyrics in an almost drawn out way. A bit like like she's speaking the words but verbally hangs on to the last bit occasionally. Hard for me to explain.
Regarding the actual lyrics. Well, they're very unusual to say the least. Any artist that can figure out how to make use of words and phrases like "structural engineer" and "Transitive Verb" in their songs and make it work has got bigger balls than I. But I'll admit, my eyebrows raised involuntarily when she sang the words "structural engineer". When she used the words "Transitive Verb", My head tilted to the right like a dog watching a fish flopping about on hot concrete. "WHAT did she just say.......?" <REWIND> "Yup, that's what I thought she said"

Very odd.

Do I like her music?
I don't know.
I think so.
Kinda.
A little bit.
Yea.

Now that I've heard her, I'll have to re-read this thread. I'm sure there's some comments that have been made that will make more sense.

Bob

MarkR7 · « **Reply #91 on:** 5 May 2008, 10:14 pm »

Hey Bob,

As a first PB album, I don't think "Verse" would be a good place start to get to "know" her.

I am a PB fan, but I don't own "Verse", as it never really appealed to me. I haven't read the rest of this thread, so excuse me if I am repeating what others have posted, but the best PB places to start, IMO of course: Companion, Modern Cool, and Cafe Blue.

Cheers!

Bob in St. Louis · « **Reply #92 on:** 5 May 2008, 10:33 pm »

Good information Mark, Thank You.
If "Verse" isn't one of her 'best', then it'll only get better from here.

I'd really like to take Scott F. up regarding his offer for the PB (and Krall) CD's.

Bob

nathanm · « **Reply #93 on:** 5 May 2008, 10:57 pm »

I remember being really blown away by the sonics of a Patricia Barber tune in years past, but then later when I bought some for myself and played it on my own system I wanted to take my own life. Not since Sleep's "Jerusalem" have I ever actually thrown away an album. It's funny how your surroundings can influence your perceptions. I suspect her records serve the same purpose at Hi-Fi shows as subwoofer-crushing action movie scenes do for home theater. I envy those who can truly enjoy such music for its content. That's having your cake and eating it too. Unfortunately my Patricia Barber cake was made out of foam rubber and silicone frosting.

P.S. Scott Faller's room is the coolest!

Scott F. · « **Reply #94 on:** 6 May 2008, 12:03 am »

Quote from: nathanm on 5 May 2008, 10:57 pm

P.S. Scott Faller's room is the coolest!

Thanks Nathan

Hey Bob, those CD's are still here. Any time you want to drop by just give me a buzz.

giantsteps · « **Reply #95 on:** 6 May 2008, 01:30 am »

Quote from: nathanm on 5 May 2008, 10:57 pm

I remember being really blown away by the sonics of a Patricia Barber tune in years past, but then later when I bought some for myself and played it on my own system I wanted to take my own life. Not since Sleep's "Jerusalem" have I ever actually thrown away an album. It's funny how your surroundings can influence your perceptions. I suspect her records serve the same purpose at Hi-Fi shows as subwoofer-crushing action movie scenes do for home theater. I envy those who can truly enjoy such music for its content. That's having your cake and eating it too. Unfortunately my Patricia Barber cake was made out of foam rubber and silicone frosting.

P.S. Scott Faller's room is the coolest!

Nathan...I'm aware that Jazz ain't your cup of tea. Jazz is my life. But I take comfort in the fact you are, apparently, the only one besides me( in this thread) who does not like PB.

You are lucky that you never met her. I did. She has the emotional stability of a train wreck. And I will repeat once again much against the majority on this thread her affectations are more annoying in person than her artistic output. Amongst jazz musicians (I'm included)she has very limited following. That speaks volumes .

....................................... ......

Frank

richidoo · « **Reply #96 on:** 6 May 2008, 02:15 am »

Sarah Vaughan ruined me, so I can barely take the modern singers, PB the least of all.
Rich

doorman · « **Reply #97 on:** 6 May 2008, 02:20 am »

Amazing how certain performers become "audiophile darlings" and many of us feel compelled to go out and buy the latest offering by the "diva of the day". If you have no PB, no worries!
OTOH, my cd rack is full of music that would make many turn and run!!
Don

giantsteps · « **Reply #98 on:** 6 May 2008, 02:36 am »

Quote from: richidoo on 6 May 2008, 02:15 am

Sarah Vaughan ruined me, so I can barely take the modern singers, PB the least of all.
Rich

I met Sassy in '72 at Walter Booker's apartment. She was showing him a song on the piano. Her touch and choice of chords (voicing)made me cry.

Frank

markC · « **Reply #99 on:** 6 May 2008, 02:58 am »

If only we could recreate that in our rooms. Well, I guess that's why, (for me at least), it's a never ending pursuit Live performances have brought hidden tears to my eyes and I am always striving to replicate that emotional sense.