Monster Cable v. Blue Jeans Cable

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prvngrnd

Monster Cable v. Blue Jeans Cable
« on: 16 Apr 2008, 03:24 pm »
A strange first post I know, but a very amusing read.

http://www.audioholics.com/news/industry-news/blue-jeans-strikes-back

Kevin Haskins

Re: Monster Cable v. Blue Jeans Cable
« Reply #1 on: 16 Apr 2008, 03:46 pm »
I wouldn't have wasted the time to write that long of a response.    Piss off would have been sufficient.

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Re: Monster Cable v. Blue Jeans Cable
« Reply #2 on: 16 Apr 2008, 03:55 pm »
I think it's awesome that he wrote such a long and detailed letter calling Monster on its bullsh*t.  "Piss off" wouldn't have accomplished anything.

Marbles

Re: Monster Cable v. Blue Jeans Cable
« Reply #3 on: 16 Apr 2008, 04:01 pm »


prvngrnd

Re: Monster Cable v. Blue Jeans Cable
« Reply #5 on: 16 Apr 2008, 04:34 pm »
I did a search - seemed strange this was nowhere on the board  :scratch:

Sorry for the clutter and delete as necessary

Steidl Guitars

Re: Monster Cable v. Blue Jeans Cable
« Reply #6 on: 16 Apr 2008, 06:57 pm »
Piss off would have been sufficient.

Actually, that's exactly what the letter says (maybe worse), albeit written in a way that lawyers would understand.

Good on Blue Jeans Cable. 

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Re: Monster Cable v. Blue Jeans Cable
« Reply #7 on: 16 Apr 2008, 07:44 pm »
Piss off would have been sufficient.

Actually, that's exactly what the letter says (maybe worse), albeit written in a way that lawyers would understand.

Good on Blue Jeans Cable. 

Huge difference between "piss off" and what he wrote.  The former is just snarky while the latter actually goes to the merits, shows Monster that BJC knows what's it talking about and that it will be a formidable legal adversary, and basically makes a convincing case for them to "piss off."  Huge difference.

Kevin Haskins

Re: Monster Cable v. Blue Jeans Cable
« Reply #8 on: 16 Apr 2008, 08:35 pm »
Hey... I'm a simple guy.    Legal talk doesn't give me any kind of thrill.   

The premise of all legal matters are fairly simple concepts that anyone should be able to understand.   Otherwise they are ineffective as a societal tool.   

Laws are to serve people, not the other way around. 


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Re: Monster Cable v. Blue Jeans Cable
« Reply #9 on: 16 Apr 2008, 09:03 pm »
Hey... I'm a simple guy.    Legal talk doesn't give me any kind of thrill.   

The premise of all legal matters are fairly simple concepts that anyone should be able to understand.   Otherwise they are ineffective as a societal tool.   

Laws are to serve people, not the other way around. 



Fine, just so long as you realize that simply writing "piss off" would have accomplished nothing.  I know you were joking, but don't dismiss the letter like that just because you think it was "legal talk".  Fact of the matter is that patent law is damn complicated, and that letter did a phenomenal job of tackling Monster's frivolous threats on the merits. It wasn't designed to give you a thrill.

Hats off to BJC for standing up.

Steidl Guitars

Re: Monster Cable v. Blue Jeans Cable
« Reply #10 on: 16 Apr 2008, 09:06 pm »
slow_down, we agree entirely. 

My post was intended to be somewhat tongue-in-cheek and imply that by convincingly calling attention to the frivolous nature of Monster's legal threat, the owner of BJC was effectively implying that they should piss off. 

What I liked especially was the direct statement that Monster is using threat and intimidation as a business strategy, and that is illegal.  That stands to benefit other small companies from similar vacuous threats. 

Personally, I had not realized that Monster was this sort of company (others, clearly, have known this for a long time), but given BJC's response, I find that conclusion inescapable.  That is both unfortunate and inexcusable. 

Kevin Haskins

Re: Monster Cable v. Blue Jeans Cable
« Reply #11 on: 16 Apr 2008, 09:09 pm »
Hey... I'm a simple guy.    Legal talk doesn't give me any kind of thrill.   

The premise of all legal matters are fairly simple concepts that anyone should be able to understand.   Otherwise they are ineffective as a societal tool.   

Laws are to serve people, not the other way around. 



Fine, just so long as you realize that simply writing "piss off" would have accomplished nothing.  I know you were joking, but don't dismiss the letter like that just because you think it was "legal talk".  Fact of the matter is that patent law is damn complicated, and that letter did a phenomenal job of tackling Monster's frivolous threats on the merits. It wasn't designed to give you a thrill.

Hats off to BJC for standing up.

Your are right ... and I am being snarky.   

There doesn't look to be any infringement of the design patents.   From the limited amount I've seen this is either a hoax or Monster has some incompetent attorneys who fling around accusations.    With such little merit, I'm not sure it requires an elaborate response.   

That is my only point.   

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Re: Monster Cable v. Blue Jeans Cable
« Reply #12 on: 16 Apr 2008, 09:17 pm »
That's cool.

I don't think Monster's attorneys are incompetent.  I think they do what they can get away with.  Fear-mongering and bullying are longstanding legal traditions, and in Monster's case, their tactics have probably resulted in many favorable licensing agreements.

What I liked about BJC's letter is that it had both attitude and substance.  Usually the former is a substitute for the latter, but from what I can discern his defense walks the walk!!!

AphileEarlyAdopter

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Re: Monster Cable v. Blue Jeans Cable
« Reply #13 on: 16 Apr 2008, 09:21 pm »
" Not only am I unintimidated by litigation; I sometimes rather miss it."

Man..this was very very funny ...

Gordy

Re: Monster Cable v. Blue Jeans Cable
« Reply #14 on: 16 Apr 2008, 10:08 pm »
Unfortunately, Mr. Monster has been doing this for years... http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=15611.0

TerryO

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Re: Monster Cable v. Blue Jeans Cable
« Reply #15 on: 17 Apr 2008, 12:19 am »
Unfortunately, Mr. Monster has been doing this for years... http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=15611.0

Did someone say Bose?  :duh: