Hagtech vs. Haglabs???

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marchewd

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Hagtech vs. Haglabs???
« on: 4 Apr 2008, 07:48 pm »
What is the difference between the two?  Do you own both of them Jim?


hagtech

Re: Hagtech vs. Haglabs???
« Reply #1 on: 4 Apr 2008, 09:39 pm »
Yes, I own them both.  Basically, the parent company name is "Hagerman Technology LLC", and I created a brand name (DBA)of "Hagerman Audio Labs" for the new line of products.  It is all one company, with the HAGLABS stuff sort of like a subsidiary or division.

I did this to separate into two customer bases.  HAGTECH will do the DIY crowd, HAGLABS is for the upscale user who wants items pre-assembled.  Originally, they were also to be sold through dealers, but that was recently changed.  I scaled back my growth plans, and am now offering everything factory-direct, from both places.

So I have the two websites in tandem.  I also have some other websites going back through the years: vacutrace.com, frykleaner.com, sonavid.com, hagsci.com, and probably some others I can't remember.  I did consulting work on the side through Hagerman Scientific (and also Hagerman Technology).  And the Sonavid was a placeholder for a new type of SONAR I invented.  I had once tried to get Dod funding for it to build a prototype.  Really cool concept.  Used interference pattern detection of encoded PRBS waveforms (spread spectrum) like a hologram to build up acoustic images in real time, from a single ping.  It worked fast, so the display would be like watching TV, except the imagery would be depth information, not luminance.  Anyway, after like 4 proposal attemps, the DoD, navy, darpa, whatever folks were never interested.  Makes me wonder if they are more interested in offensive weapons, rather than defensive surveillance.  But that is getting a little off topic.

jh

marchewd

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Re: Hagtech vs. Haglabs???
« Reply #2 on: 5 Apr 2008, 05:56 am »
Jim,
    That is cool.  I noticed the design of the Cornet was a bit different on both sights.  Do both units have about the same performance?  What about the Trumpet phonostage?  I am almost done with my tricked out Cornet2.  The chassis punches just arrived today!

Thanks,
Dan

hagtech

Re: Hagtech vs. Haglabs???
« Reply #3 on: 5 Apr 2008, 06:03 am »
The original CORNET is gone.  There is only the new RED one now.  It is completely upgraded in every possible way.  The only thing the same are the sockets I use.  It is now the best MM phonostage in the world under $1500.

The original TRUMPET has met the same fate.  Gone.  The new RED version has many upgrades.  One of these days I'll get some pics uploaded.  I made them both better.  Each are 1st in their class.  And the new RED PICCOLO is a perfect match.

jh

marchewd

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Re: Hagtech vs. Haglabs???
« Reply #4 on: 5 Apr 2008, 06:13 am »
Jim I was asking about the difference between the Cornet2 on hagtech and the Cornet on Haglabs, as well as the Trumpet on Haglabs.  How do all three of these things compare?  I have spent tons of money on Vishay S102 resistors, Mundorf SIO, Sprague VitaminQ caps, Kiwame resistors, CB Vampire RCA's, the works.  I was just wondering how this Cornet2 would stack up against either of your finsihed pre-assembled Cornet or Trumpet phonostages.


hagtech

Re: Hagtech vs. Haglabs???
« Reply #5 on: 5 Apr 2008, 05:36 pm »
The CORNET2 is the same circuit as the CORNET.  The big difference is the chassis.  Your tweaked C2 will probably sound as good as, perhaps even better than the new RED CORNET (dependent on part choices).  It will not be as good as the TRUMPET.

jh

marchewd

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Re: Hagtech vs. Haglabs???
« Reply #6 on: 5 Apr 2008, 08:13 pm »
Jim,
    Cool.  I was worried when I stumbled upon your other website and saw the Haglabs Cornet and it looked different with the rca's on the front and no transformer on top!  Why don't you offer the Trumpet as a kit any longer?  How is it better than the Cornet?  How noticeable are the difference?

Thanks again,
Dan

hagtech

Re: Hagtech vs. Haglabs???
« Reply #7 on: 6 Apr 2008, 06:45 am »
The TRUMPET was never a kit.  A tweaked CORNET can be fabulous, and be everything you need.  It is what I listen with.  You won't be missing anything.  Until you hear a TRUMPET.  It has a little more to give.

jh

BobM

Re: Hagtech vs. Haglabs???
« Reply #8 on: 6 Apr 2008, 01:12 pm »
Jim, you're being modest. I've had both and, as good as a tweaked Coronet is, the Trumpet is just in another league.

Enjoy,
Bob

poseidonsvoice

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Re: Hagtech vs. Haglabs???
« Reply #9 on: 10 Apr 2008, 03:42 pm »
Your Haglabs site looks very nice  :drool:. So does your Trumpet phonostage  :drool: :drool:. The organization of your boards (for low noise,etc...) as seen in the pictures on the website is unreal :notworthy:. Although there isn't a Trumpet kit, I'm sure the boards and/or the half kits would sell like hotcakes. Even the chassis is considerably easier to build than your original Trumpet. I've always wondered about a 6SL7/6SN7 version of the Trumpet  aa. The 6SL7 would do fine at the bias currents of 1mA and the 6SN7 would sail at 6mA, although you could push it harder.

Best,
Anand.

hagtech

Re: Hagtech vs. Haglabs???
« Reply #10 on: 10 Apr 2008, 08:38 pm »
Yeah, I wasn't sure about the word guts.  It just kind of happened.  Innards? 

jh