My EL84 Triode PP Amp (Sold)

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sorenj07

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My EL84 Triode PP Amp (Sold)
« on: 6 Mar 2008, 12:50 pm »
I've got too many other projects on deck, and not enough funds.  Anyone in the Boston area?

I'm also willing to ship to Continental U.S. addresses.
« Last Edit: 12 Aug 2008, 03:11 am by sorenj07 »

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Re: My EL84 Triode PP Amp
« Reply #1 on: 6 Mar 2008, 02:27 pm »
That is a cool amp...I bet it sounds great....If I move any of my gear before this is gone, I will buy it!

sorenj07

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Re: My EL84 Triode PP Amp
« Reply #2 on: 6 Mar 2008, 04:08 pm »
thanks! there's a shorter ad on craigslist but here's the full version:

A completely custom, hand-built and point-to-point wired tube amplifier.  The chassis was lovingly pieced together using what was once a Tektronix 2213 oscilloscope.  I really enjoy it in my current setup, but need to finance other audio projects I'm working on so I have to let it go...



Schematic:

This amplifier uses triode-wired EL84 tubes, for a bit over 6W (4.8W Class A).  Distortion of the output stage with no negative feedback connection simulates at less than .5% (3rd) and .05% (5th).  The tubes are run in fixed-bias, with individual controls precise to the .1mA level.  The driver stage uses a 6DJ8/6922 in a long-tail pair phase splitter, with a very high negative voltage supply which decreases phase imbalance.  The output transformers were designed for EL84's in pentode mode at around 15W, and derating by 60% can only further increase bandwidth. 

I use high quality PRP resistors in one of the more critical spots, namely the plate load resistors for the phase splitter.  Wiring is largely done using silver-plated teflon-jacket high purity copper interconnect.  The coupling capacitors are the well-known Russian K42-Y glass-sealed paper-in-oil types.  The power supply is very robust - it uses a pure choke-input topology, using a monstrous Hammond 193M, rated for 300mA (174% of the whole amp's quiescent current draw).  The power transformer is rated for 175mA in a capacitor-input supply but should be good for well over 200mA in choke input.  Since the amp operates largely in Class A, strain on the PSU is further reduced. 

Inputs are two RCA's.  Volume is adjusted with a high quality Noble potentiometer.  A CD player connected directly to the amplifier is more than capable of driving it to very loud listening levels, but of course this also depends on speaker efficiency.  Separate filament and high-voltage switches help prolong tube life. 

So how does it sound?  First of all, the amp is DEAD QUIET on 98dB-efficient speakers.  The power transformer makes a tiny humming noise, but all the transformers are isolated from the chassis with rubber grommets so mechanical induction is not a likely problem.  It has plenty of bass for only 6W or so, but where it really shines is in the vocals.  Voices really leap out of the speakers at you.  Granted, this isn't the singer's-breath-on-your-cheek experience I've had with McIntosh amps feeding insane B&W speakers, but for a fraction of the expense, who's complaining?  Highs are very smooth but clear - just listen to some hi-hat/cymbal-heavy jazz and you'll see what I mean.  I'm no expert on 3D soundstages, but this amp definitely has something that I haven't heard very often.  I think you'll like it. 

Local pickup and cash transactions are MUCH preferred.  Feel free to set up a time to give it a listen!  I have a pretty wide variety of music (a fair bit of MFSL/audiophile quality recordings), but your own reference discs are fine also.  I'm using a modified Playstation 1 as source, and Cerwin-Vega D-7's as my monitors. 

I can also email the complete PDF for the output stage simulation.  A final note: since I designed and built this amplifier, you're free to come by and ask me to take a look at it at any time should you choose to purchase it.  Of course, if the amp malfunctions or breaks due to a defect on my part, I'll repair it. 

Thanks for looking! (asking $299)
« Last Edit: 5 Aug 2008, 02:03 am by sorenj07 »

sorenj07

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Re: My EL84 Triode PP Amp
« Reply #3 on: 5 May 2008, 12:15 pm »
Bump.. any takers? :rules:

merdy

Re: My EL84 Triode PP Amp
« Reply #4 on: 7 May 2008, 04:05 pm »
dude i have seen the amp and love the circuit concept, i to have been selling lots of audio stuff to enjoy my other hobbies my 2 vintage cars
are you intrested in some trades as i still have lots of stuff
kr 300blx
jbl e140 2pcs
1 altec 1569a
kinergetics sub amp
lots of small drivers etc

sorenj07

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Re: My EL84 Triode PP Amp
« Reply #5 on: 7 May 2008, 04:18 pm »
Thanks! I'd trade for a pair of monitor/bookshelf speakers of equivalent value, or a bit less with cash to make up the difference, if anyone's interested.

vizion

Re: My EL84 Triode PP Amp
« Reply #6 on: 30 Jul 2008, 01:55 am »
hi Soren,


doesn't a pair of triode-connected EL84s dish out around 2.6w only ?



sorenj07

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Re: My EL84 Triode PP Amp
« Reply #7 on: 4 Aug 2008, 04:25 am »
Nope.

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Re: My EL84 Triode PP Amp
« Reply #8 on: 4 Aug 2008, 02:53 pm »
Soren,

Nice schematic, thanks for the description. Long tail pair phase splitters is like DIY 101 to a push pull tubeophile. There are many ways to design a driver stage, but this a true and tried method to start off your DIY journey. Hope somebody picks this up. For $475, it looks like a steal. Boston is a town with a ton of college kids, somebody has gotta know this is a deal.

Is that a thermistor I see to limit inrush current? Cool.

Good luck in your sale,

Anand.

sorenj07

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Re: My EL84 Triode PP Amp
« Reply #9 on: 5 Aug 2008, 02:05 am »
Thanks! I actually forgot to update this thread, but I'm only asking $299. I've simply got too many projects going on.  This is an absolute steal. I'm also willing to ship.

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Re: My EL84 Triode PP Amp
« Reply #10 on: 5 Aug 2008, 03:18 am »
Thanks! I actually forgot to update this thread, but I'm only asking $299. I've simply got too many projects going on.  This is an absolute steal. I'm also willing to ship.

Hi from Australia...
Is the power supply switchable to 230 volts and how heavy is the amplifier ??
Thanks
Helmut

sorenj07

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Re: My EL84 Triode PP Amp
« Reply #11 on: 5 Aug 2008, 07:20 am »
Hi. I responded to your PM. The amplifier weighs about 25-30lbs, and can only run on US AC 115-125V. You could use a hefty step-down isolation transformer.

sorenj07

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Re: My EL84 Triode PP Amp (Sold)
« Reply #12 on: 12 Aug 2008, 03:11 am »
Sold.

mca

Re: My EL84 Triode PP Amp (Sold)
« Reply #13 on: 4 Sep 2008, 04:36 am »
I'm the new owner of this little amp. I just brought it home today and have spent the last couple hours with Madeleine Peyroux playing through my DIY Audio Nirvana 8" full range speakers. Sounds excellent  :thumb:

sorenj07

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Re: My EL84 Triode PP Amp (Sold)
« Reply #14 on: 15 Sep 2008, 04:08 am »
Glad it worked out :D

mca

Re: My EL84 Triode PP Amp (Sold)
« Reply #15 on: 7 Mar 2009, 04:56 pm »
This has been a great amp, but unfortunately must go up for sale. My second setup had to go after my girlfriend moved in. It has seen very little use since I purchased it from Soren. Asking $300 including shipping and paypal.

RodMCV

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Re: My EL84 Triode PP Amp (Sold)
« Reply #16 on: 7 Mar 2009, 06:17 pm »
I will buy this if ok to go.
Rod