Bryston Warranty!

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cmreddy

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Bryston Warranty!
« on: 26 Feb 2008, 01:22 am »
Hi All,

again a newbie question and i am not sure if its already covered.. I tried my best to read and search.. What exactly means by Analog and digital circuits means.. Why do digital circuits have only 5 years warranty? and how come Analog circuits have a while 20 yrs warranty.

By any chance digital circuits fail more often than analog? And what percentage (price wise) Analog components constitute in a bryston product say in Amplifiers and Processors.. Would be interesting to know..

cheers,
Cmreddy



Phil A

Re: Bryston Warranty!
« Reply #1 on: 26 Feb 2008, 02:19 am »
There's plenty of stuff if you search such as:

http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?action=search2

The processor (or DAC, CD player) vs. an amp is probably the main reason for the change.  I bought my SP1.7 when everything had the full warranty.  Processor technology tends to change more rapidly.  CD (I believe the Bryston player has a 3 yr. warranty) players have transports that can wear out.  So I'm not really sure if there's really going to be anything in the way of the processor that isn't technologically obsolete within 5 yrs. or shortly thereafter.  It's certainly something I'll have to weigh if there is an upgrade available since I basically don't use the bass management and can suffer with 5.1 vs. 6.1 or 7.1 and when and if I get into hi-rez I can certainly live the decoders built into the hi-rez player.  Lots of people were upset with the change but that's just the way it is.  How many cos. give you a 20 yr. warranty on anything? 

cmreddy

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Re: Bryston Warranty!
« Reply #2 on: 26 Feb 2008, 07:52 pm »
Thankx Phil.

But the questions remain. What percentage of the Amplifier is made up of analog components and digital. This gives an idea as how much money need to be spent on a repair if a digital circuit fails outside the warranty.

Similarly, for processors. Also a discussion what is considered as digital and what is considered as Analog would be great.

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Re: Bryston Warranty!
« Reply #3 on: 26 Feb 2008, 10:34 pm »
Thankx Phil.

But the questions remain. What percentage of the Amplifier is made up of analog components and digital. This gives an idea as how much money need to be spent on a repair if a digital circuit fails outside the warranty.

Similarly, for processors. Also a discussion what is considered as digital and what is considered as Analog would be great.


Hi Guys,

Phil got it right on.  As we moved into digital designed equipment we realized the same rules do not apply.  The main differences are:

1. Digital circuits are IC based and as a result you can not repair them the same way you can with discrete circuits. You replace the whole IC or chip or sometimes the whole circuit board..
2. Digital technology changes move along at a much faster pace so offering long term warranties on IC's and chips that are no longer made or supported is not possible. 
3. Bryston as a company wants some level of history with these new digital technologies before we feel confident to offer more than a 5 year life span. 

As a perfect example of how things are truely different with these new technologies are the drives in our new CD players. They are warrantied from the manufacturer to us for '30 days'.

All our current Bryston amplifiers (other than the new D130Z) are fully discrete circuits so there is no digital circuits involved therefore 20 years warranty. The Processor, the CD Player and the new External DAC all have sections of digital technology in them.  The digital board in the processor is about 30% of the total cost.  The parts (DA Section) in the BP26, B60, B100 etc are about 10% Digital.  The CD Player and the new External DAC are about 30% Digital.


james

« Last Edit: 27 Feb 2008, 12:05 am by James Tanner »

cmreddy

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Re: Bryston Warranty!
« Reply #4 on: 27 Feb 2008, 12:24 am »
Thankx a ton James. This is precisely what i am looking for. Your answer clearly shows that we can happily invest in an Bryston Amplifier. Well processors change over time, so most of us wont have any issues. Even then, i guess wont be that expensive to repair or replace defective parts at the expense of the owners, considering their composition.

This was one nagging question behind my mind for a long time.  :D