SP 3.0?

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Re: SP 3.0?
« Reply #320 on: 8 Apr 2009, 12:57 pm »
James,
Can I assume that Bryston will still have a trade-in program for those of us with SP1.7's? aa

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« Reply #321 on: 8 Apr 2009, 01:55 pm »
That's the plan at this point.

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Re: SP 3.0?
« Reply #322 on: 12 Apr 2009, 07:12 pm »
Would you be able to trade a sp1.7 that began life as a sp1

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Re: SP 3.0?
« Reply #323 on: 12 Apr 2009, 07:21 pm »
Would you be able to trade a sp1.7 that began life as a sp1

Hi THX,

We are certainly going to try to come up with a program that works for everyone.

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Re: SP 3.0?
« Reply #324 on: 13 Apr 2009, 08:34 pm »
Hi James,

any news on the SP-3 development front?

How is the analog section doing?

Any decisions made which features of the DAE digital video section will be offered, added or omitted?

Cheers!

Markus

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Re: SP 3.0?
« Reply #325 on: 13 Apr 2009, 10:38 pm »
Hi James,

any news on the SP-3 development front?

How is the analog section doing?

Any decisions made which features of the DAE digital video section will be offered, added or omitted?

Cheers!

Markus

Hi Markus,

The analog section is nearing completion and we are now working on the digital section and front panel interface.

The first units will not have any video on board.

james

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Re: SP 3.0?
« Reply #326 on: 4 May 2009, 11:33 pm »
Not that I need it or want or that it won't be a problem with other things but James what are your thoughts on HDMI 1.4?

http://www.hdmi.org/press/press_release.aspx?prid=93

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« Reply #327 on: 5 May 2009, 01:06 am »
Not that I need it or want or that it won't be a problem with other things but James what are your thoughts on HDMI 1.4?

http://www.hdmi.org/press/press_release.aspx?prid=93


Hi Phil

I will have a look.

james

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Re: SP 3.0?
« Reply #328 on: 5 May 2009, 01:49 am »
James, here's a press release from Silicon Image and also for all a brief history of the HDMI versions:

http://seekingalpha.com/article/133057-silicon-image-q1-2009-earnings-call-transcript?page=3

HDMI 1.0 - 12/2002

Single-cable digital audio/video connection with a maximum bitrate of 4.9 Gbps. Supports up to 165 Megapixels/second of video (1080p @ 60 Hz or UXGA) and 8-channel/192kHz/24-bit audio.
HDMI 1.1 - 5/2004

Additional support for DVD Audio content protection
HDMI 1.2 - 8/2005

Additional support for Super Audio CDs
HDMI Type A connection available for PC sources
PC sources can use native RGB color while retaining the option to support YCbCr color.
Support for low-voltages sources
HDMI 1.3 - 6/2006

Single-cable digital audio/video connection increased to 10.2 Gbps
Increased color support, including 30-bit, 36-bit, and 48-bit color depths (RGB or YCbCr)
Supports xvYCC color standards
Supports automatic audio syncing capability
Supports output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio streams (audio codec formats used on HD DVDs and Blu-ray Discs) for external decoding by AV receivers.
Availability of a new mini connector for devices such as camcorders.

................

Feature HDMI 1.3
Maximum Data Rate 10.2 Gb/s
Maximum Resolution 2560x1440 progressive (1440p)
Maximum Color Bit Depth 48 bits
Maximum Colors Displayed 281 Trillion
Maximum Audio Sample Frequency (2 channels) 768 kHz
192 kHz (8 streams max)"


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Re: SP 3.0?
« Reply #329 on: 5 May 2009, 04:29 am »
I heard one of the main reasons HDMI was introduced to enable Digital Rights Management. True?

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Re: SP 3.0?
« Reply #330 on: 5 May 2009, 11:17 pm »
HDMI is a one-way digital signal.  At one point (a few years back), I had one of the rare Samsung HD1000 DVD players which had no HDMI or DVI and upconverted via component to 720p or 1080i.  I understand the DVD consortium basically ripped Samsung a new one over releasing the player here.  The studios (movies or music) are concerned over copy protection.  Unfortunately, one can go to lots of street corners in many cities and buy bootleg movies and music and there is no law enforcement.

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Re: SP 3.0?
« Reply #331 on: 8 May 2009, 12:53 am »
I'd guess this is some of the reason for the new spec:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Cinema_Initiatives

MOZ

Re: SP 3.0?
« Reply #332 on: 25 May 2009, 08:10 am »
Hi James,

Is your SP3 still scheduled for this year or not ?
MOZ

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« Reply #333 on: 25 May 2009, 11:05 am »
Hi James,

Is your SP3 still scheduled for this year or not ?
MOZ

Hi MOZ

We hope to have a working version at the CEDIA show in September.

james

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« Reply #334 on: 29 May 2009, 12:32 am »
Here's an HDMI 1.4 Press Release:

"May 28, 2009 01:00 ET
HDMI Licensing, LLC Announces Features of the Upcoming HDMI Specification Version 1.4

Enhancements Include Networking, Audio Return Channel, 3D Capability, Improved Performance and New Connectors

SUNNYVALE, Calif. --(Business Wire)-- May 28, 2009 HDMI Licensing, LLC, the agent responsible for licensing the High-Definition Multimedia Interface? (HDMI?) specification, today announced the features that will be incorporated in the upcoming HDMI 1.4 specification. This latest version of the HDMI specification will, among other advancements, offer networking capabilities with Ethernet connectivity and will add an Audio Return Channel to enable upstream audio connections via the HDMI cable. The HDMI specification 1.4 will be available for download on the HDMI LLC website no later than June 30, 2009.

The HDMI 1.4 specification will offer the following enhanced functionalities:

HDMI Ethernet Channel
The HDMI 1.4 specification will add a data channel to the HDMI cable and will enable high-speed bi-directional communication. Connected devices that include this feature will be able to send and receive data via 100 Mb/sec Ethernet, making them instantly ready for any IP-based application.

The HDMI Ethernet Channel will allow an Internet-enabled HDMI device to share its Internet connection with other HDMI devices without the need for a separate Ethernet cable. The new feature will also provide the connection platform to allow HDMI-enabled devices to share content between devices.

Audio Return Channel
The new specification will add an Audio Return Channel that will reduce the number of cables required to deliver audio upstream for processing and playback. In cases where HDTVs are directly receiving audio and video content, this new Audio Return Channel allows the HDTV to send the audio stream to the A/V receiver over the HDMI cable, eliminating the need for an extra cable.

3D Over HDMI
The 1.4 version of the specification will define common 3D formats and resolutions for HDMI-enabled devices. The specification will standardize the input/output portion of the home 3D system and will specify up to dual-stream 1080p resolution.

4K x 2K Resolution Support
The new specification will enable HDMI devices to support high-definition (HD) resolutions four times beyond the resolution of 1080p. Support for 4K x 2K will allow the HDMI interface to transmit content at the same resolution as many digital theaters. Formats supported include:

3840x2160 24Hz/25Hz/30Hz
4096x2160 24Hz
Expanded Support For Color Spaces
HDMI technology now supports color spaces designed specifically for digital still cameras. By supporting sYCC601, Adobe RGB and AdobeYCC601, HDMI-enabled display devices will be capable of reproducing more accurate life-like colors when connected to a digital still camera.

Micro HDMI Connector
The Micro HDMI Connector is a significantly smaller 19-pin connector that supports up to 1080p resolutions for portable devices. This new connector is approximately 50% smaller than the size of the existing HDMI Mini Connector.

Automotive Connection System
The Automotive Connection System is a cabling specification designed to be used as the basis for in-vehicle HD content distribution. The HDMI 1.4 specification will provide a solution designed to meet the rigors and environmental issues commonly found in automobiles, such as heat, vibration and noise. Using the Automotive Connection System, automobile manufactures will now have a viable solution for distributing HD content within the car.

?The HDMI specification continues to add functionality as the consumer electronics and PC industries build products that enhance the consumer?s HD experience,? said Steve Venuti, president of HDMI Licensing, LLC. ?The 1.4 specification will support some of the most exciting and powerful near-term innovations such as Ethernet connectivity and 3D formats. Additionally we are going to broaden our solution by providing a smaller connector for portable devices and a connection system specified for automobiles, as we see both more and different devices adopting the HDMI technology.?

Consumers will also see new HDMI cables introduced to the market. In order to take advantage of the HDMI Ethernet Channel, consumers will need to purchase either a Standard HDMI cable with Ethernet, or a High Speed HDMI cable with Ethernet. Consumers connecting an external device to an in-vehicle HDMI-enabled HD system will need the new Automotive HDMI cable. Consumers can expect to see new HDMI 1.4 cables introduced to the market when new HDMI 1.4 devices are available.

Consumers will have a choice of the following HDMI cables:

Standard HDMI Cable ? supports data rates up to 1080i/60;
High Speed HDMI Cable ? supports data rates beyond 1080p, including Deep Color and all 3D formats of the new 1.4 specification;
Standard HDMI Cable with Ethernet ? includes Ethernet connectivity;
High Speed HDMI Cable with Ethernet ? includes Ethernet connectivity;
Automotive HDMI Cable ? allows the connection of external HDMI-enabled devices to an in-vehicle HDMI device.
The HDMI standard continues to grow in the marketplace with now over 850 adopters worldwide. The growing adoption of the HDMI specification by both consumer electronics and PC manufacturers further strengthens its position as the worldwide standard for high-definition digital connectivity. According to market research firm In-Stat, over 394 million HDMI-enabled devices are expected to ship in 2009, with an installed base of 1 billion devices. By the end of 2009 100% of digital televisions are expected to have at least one HDMI input.

The HDMI specification 1.4 will be available for download at http://www.hdmi.org no later than June 30, 2009.

About HDMI Licensing, LLC

HDMI Licensing, LLC is the agent responsible for licensing the HDMI specification, promoting the HDMI standard and providing education on the benefits of the HDMI specification to adopters, retailers and consumers. The HDMI specification was developed by Hitachi, Panasonic Corporation, Philips, Silicon Image, Sony, Thomson and Toshiba as the all-digital interface standard for the consumer electronics and personal computer markets. The HDMI specification combines uncompressed high-definition video and multi-channel audio in a single digital interface to provide crystal-clear digital quality over a single cable. HDMI Licensing, LLC is a wholly owned subsidiary of Silicon Image, Inc. For more information about the HDMI specification, please visit www.hdmi.org.

Forward-looking Statements

This news release contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of federal securities laws and regulations, including, but not limited to, statements regarding the HDMI 1.4 technology and its anticipated advantages, growth, market, adoption, consumer demand, and anticipated shipments and product introductions. These forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties, including, but not limited to, risks associated with the claims made regarding the HDMI 1.4 technology, as well as those risks and uncertainties described from time to time in Silicon Image?s filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). These risks and uncertainties could cause the actual results to differ materially from those anticipated by the forward-looking statements contained in this news release. Silicon Image assumes no obligation to update any forward-looking statement.

HDMI is a registered trademark of HDMI Licensing, LLC in the United States and/or other countries. All other trademarks and registered trademarks are the property of their respective owners in the Unites States and/or other countries."

Levi

Re: SP 3.0?
« Reply #335 on: 29 May 2009, 01:23 am »
Hi James,

What price point will the SP3.0 fall into?  So I know how much to save.

--Levi

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Re: SP 3.0?
« Reply #336 on: 29 May 2009, 08:17 am »
HDMI 1.3 vs. 1.4...well, I'd rather see Bryston focus on HDMI 1.3 to make that one work flawless than waiting for the first HDMI 1.4 chips to appear and be integrated into a Digital Audio Engine.
What I dislike about all HDMI implementations I have been using myself or that I experienced on trade fairs is the switching time. When moving from one source to another, the receiver chip in the switching device needs to establish a new connection which involves negotiating the supported resolutions and the HDCP protocol. A break (blue screen) for a few seconds is the result.

I don't know what can be acchieved through software, but maybe some presets for resolutions for the HDMI inputs could help. A hardware based approach that Crestron is using employs a single receiver chip for each HDMI input. This way, the switcher can maintain a connection to all powered-up devices which avoids the time consuming connection negotiations when switching. That would be a solution that really adds value for the user. More value than HDMI 1.4, which would bring a further delay of at least 18 month...

Just my two cents on HDMI here... ;)

Cheers

Markus

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Re: SP 3.0?
« Reply #337 on: 29 May 2009, 11:30 am »
Hi James,

What price point will the SP3.0 fall into?  So I know how much to save.

--Levi

Hi Levi,

Can not be exact but hoping around $10,000.

james

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« Reply #338 on: 29 May 2009, 11:58 pm »
 :shake: :sad:.

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Re: SP 3.0?
« Reply #339 on: 30 May 2009, 02:35 am »
Wow $10K  :o
I'm hoping that figure will be significantly reduced with an SP2 trade-in program!