Is it about the music or your system?

giantsteps · « **on:** 19 Jan 2008, 08:51 pm »

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Frank

Levi · « **Reply #1 on:** 19 Jan 2008, 09:29 pm »

Frank.....
Were here at the Rave....waiting for your arrival.........

giantsteps · « **Reply #2 on:** 20 Jan 2008, 01:28 am »

Sometimes a chick can interfere!

Sorry I couldn't make it.

Where did I put those Viagra pills?

Frank

TONEPUB · « **Reply #3 on:** 20 Jan 2008, 01:32 am »

definitely the music, but a great system helps to enjoy the music more...

ecramer · « **Reply #4 on:** 20 Jan 2008, 01:45 am »

80% the music 20% the system. I take my mp3 player to work and usually get to listen to that 6 or 7 hours a day. I have <>2000 Cd's ripped on the computer . the big system i usually get 1 to 2 hours on day while I'm puttzing around and maybe 3 hours a week of good listening time but I'm always listening to something.

Hello Frank
I didn't head to the rave either stayed home and put sonic barrier in my speaker cabinets and glued everything together I will start on the front baffles tomorrow

ED

BobM · « **Reply #5 on:** 20 Jan 2008, 02:05 am »

It's always been about the music, whether I'm listening to 25 year old cassettes on a beat up walkman, or sitting in front of my far better sounding main system. It's the music that moves me, whether it's oxodized and rolled off tapes - as long as they contain great tunes - or reference recording CD's, or pristine old school vinyl. The music is what counts first and foremost.

Of course it is always better if it sounds better, but that is a secondary concern to the music itself. Perhaps that is due to the musician in me, even though I don't play much anymore. Of course we all know that a system can't reproduce what we hear live, but that's another argument altogether.

Enjoy,
Bob

giantsteps · « **Reply #6 on:** 20 Jan 2008, 02:08 am »

Quote from: TONEPUB on 20 Jan 2008, 01:32 am

definitely the music, but a great system helps to enjoy the music more...

I agree. But I would like to elaborate. I spent a little over a month visiting friends in Brazil. I visited a sax player who I admire and we had a blast playing some CD's of songs we participated in played over his old, dilapitated, rusty, mal funtioning boom box. We cried over some precious improvised solos. My point is that as musicians we know what a 22inch Zildjian cymbal sounds like crashing next to our ears. It's bogus to be obcessed trying to recreate it electronically. The emotion of participating in a live performance is the real deal.

Frank

nathanm · « **Reply #7 on:** 20 Jan 2008, 02:19 am »

Folsom · « **Reply #8 on:** 20 Jan 2008, 02:24 am »

The music but I do find myself getting caught up in the system. I just want the music to be alive and exciting. When I recognize room for huge improvements I just always get curious, and if I can do something about it I do.

One thing about having a nice system, whatever your opinion on what is nice, if the music is mixed or recorded poorly it has to be very good for some other reason or everything else that sounds good is so much better to listen to you maybe basically never listen to the not as good sounding stuff.

giantsteps · « **Reply #9 on:** 20 Jan 2008, 02:30 am »

Quote from: nathanm on 20 Jan 2008, 02:19 am

Yes.

Our reigning master AC member of dry humor just woke up. I dare you to elaborate!

Respectfully,

Frank

ecramer · « **Reply #10 on:** 20 Jan 2008, 03:06 am »

I have to agree that some of the stuff i listen to (psyco billy ect ,poor recordings) sounds better to me on my mp3 player then the main system and that the disks don't go in the cd player.

Quote from: Destroyer of Smiles. on 20 Jan 2008, 02:24 am

The music but I do find myself getting caught up in the system. I just want the music to be alive and exciting. When I recognize room for huge improvements I just always get curious, and if I can do something about it I do.

One thing about having a nice system, whatever your opinion on what is nice, if the music is mixed or recorded poorly it has to be very good for some other reason or everything else that sounds good is so much better to listen to you maybe basically never listen to the not as good sounding stuff.

The Computer Audiophile · « **Reply #11 on:** 20 Jan 2008, 03:24 am »

Definitely the music. There is nothing worse than going suite to suite at CES listening to Patricia Barber over and over on very high quality equipment. Very uninteresting and headache causing. When I walked past a suite playing Dark Side of the Moon I was so pleased. I turned right around and went in. Never heard of the manufacturer but I didn't care.

rabpaul · « **Reply #12 on:** 20 Jan 2008, 04:19 am »

I see this to mean Music or the Sound of Music.
The politically correct answer is to say its about the music, as an audiophile its always about both, music and its fidelity.

mgalusha · « **Reply #13 on:** 20 Jan 2008, 04:32 am »

Both. Good music is good regardless of what it's playing on but I do love to tinker with things and the stereo system certainly provides plenty of opportunity for that.

When it sounds really good I enjoy the music in a different way, not necessarily more but differently. I like being able to hear the subtle details and cues that make it seem like I'm closer to the musicians.

jkelly · « **Reply #14 on:** 20 Jan 2008, 04:55 am »

The only thing I can control about music is picking it.
The system - now that's another thing. I can control
everything and advance or retard the experience, so
for me it is all about the system.

There I've said it!!!

arthurs · « **Reply #15 on:** 20 Jan 2008, 05:12 am »

It's about the chair...the system playing the music just happens to be in the same room...

The Computer Audiophile · « **Reply #16 on:** 20 Jan 2008, 05:14 pm »

Quote from: arthurs on 20 Jan 2008, 05:12 am

It's about the chair...the system playing the music just happens to be in the same room...

Love it!

giantsteps · « **Reply #17 on:** 20 Jan 2008, 05:26 pm »

Quote from: The Computer Audiophile on 20 Jan 2008, 05:14 pm

Quote from: arthurs on 20 Jan 2008, 05:12 am
It's about the chair...the system playing the music just happens to be in the same room...

Love it!

Please share more. Does it vibrate?

Frank

mfsoa · « **Reply #18 on:** 20 Jan 2008, 06:01 pm »

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When it sounds really good I enjoy the music in a different way, not necessarily more but differently

I totally agree. With truly great audio, as well as home theater, the experience is not just better, but it is DIFFERENT!

It's not a linear continuum from "smaller screen, TV speakers" to "HDTV w/ killer surround" The experience and the impact and the message of the medium is completely different.

Likewise w/ 2ch audio. An excellent system is not just "hmmm, the bass goes deeper, I can hear the sounds coming from places other than directly from the speaker..." It is an experience wholly different from what a mediocre system does. I think that this what the audio/videophile stives for - That "whatever it is" that creates an experience that is not simply "better" but "different" in ways that mere non-audio-disturbed mortals just don't appreciate (yet).

-Mike

Folsom · « **Reply #19 on:** 20 Jan 2008, 06:13 pm »

Quote from: mgalusha on 20 Jan 2008, 04:32 am

Both. Good music is good regardless of what it's playing on but I do love to tinker with things and the stereo system certainly provides plenty of opportunity for that. When it sounds really good I enjoy the music in a different way, not necessarily more but differently. I like being able to hear the subtle details and cues that make it seem like I'm closer to the musicians.

I wish I agreed. For example I get very little out of listening to Spoon's Gimme Fiction on regular stuff, but I still like the album, I just happen to know that it is amazing on an audiophile setup so I tend to wait to listen to it on one if I want to listen to it. Now there is other stuff and things I do listen to on computer speakers, but it tends to be more stuff that is not as exciting on an audiophile setup or where it is more about just the words as opposed to the brilliant composure of the music like with Spoon.