[justaudiomagic]

Hello everybode

Micke is the name and I'm from Sweden.
We started Just Audio Magic last year.

This year we would like to distribute really good looking speakers (among other things) and found the VMPS. Can you tell us more about the speakers and about the sound.

Also I would like to know if the speakers need big rooms!?


Thanks!  aa

[warnerwh]

I'm listening to RM 40's in a 12'x17' room so no they don't need large rooms.  The sound is outstanding for the money, honestly.  The fit and finish is premium grade furniture quality. 

[JP78]

i believe, when tuned to the room and system, vmps are absolutely  stunning.  the upside is the unparalled potential regardless of price; however the price of entry in terms of experience is high.  i've heard vmps systems where the owner didn't know what they were doing and the sound quality was terrible....completely disjointed, with flabby bass, and skewed impulse reponses.  at the end of the day, however, there are few brands (if any) i'd rather be stuck with than vmps.

[toobluvr]

They were the hot speaker around these parts about 2 or 3 years ago.
The buzz has since cooled.

No need to re-invent the wheel, they've been already talked up ad-nauseum.
I recommend using the search tool.
Wouldn't be surprised if it returns over 1000 posts.
In any event, you'd be kept busy for hours reading up on them.

[Brian Cheney]

toobluvr,

I find your post exceedingly strange and not in line with the facts.

Why don't you read Dr Sardonicus' review earlier this year of the RM30 in positivefeedbackonline (here's a quote: "(the RM30) is a state of the art speaker under $6000") or any of the hundred other raves VMPS has garnered in the audio press since 1980.

Since this is an audio discussion board, it is not possible to talk about the subject matter ad nauseum and again, I find it exceedingly strange for you to say so.

Instead, read the upcoming THE Show/CES reports from Roger Gordon, Dick Olsher, and Harry Pearson, all of whom spent considerable time in our booth.

The VMPS Circle remains by a wide margin the biggest and most active of all those on AC. 

[John Casler]

Hello everybode

Micke is the name and I'm from Sweden.
We started Just Audio Magic last year.

This year we would like to distribute really good looking speakers (among other things) and found the VMPS. Can you tell us more about the speakers and about the sound.

Also I would like to know if the speakers need big rooms!?


Thanks!  aa

Hi Micke

I think you're moving in the right direction.  I doubt you will find too many lines that have such a wide selection of value and performance.

From the 626R ($1598) to the RM v60 ($8900) including a good accommodation of SUBS, and a great menu of upgrades and options I think it would be hard to beat VMPS, and that is why I am an owner and dealer.

While speakers certainly involve personal tastes, you would also be hardpressed to find a speaker that has such adaptability to its sonic environment and your tastes.

And with the new D-OXO (outboard Digital X-over) now coming online the fun is only just beginning.

I just returned from Las Vegas, where the most common comment (and I am talking from some very prominent reviewers) was "This Room blows everything away, I have heard so far", or something similar.

I must say, we did have an equipment failure on Monday which threw everyting off for the first day, but from Tuesday on, we rocked THE SHOW.

Harry Pearson (an Audio Legend) had a couple cuts that had bass notes in the teens, and he was amazed that they were clean and solid.

[justaudiomagic]

Hello again!

The room we are playing in is 4 x 5 square meters. I know the 626 is fitted here but the rest? Is it too small?


John Casler:
Please to meet you!
Does VMPS has many customers? I belive the VMPS would be very interesting having playing on a exhibition here in Sweden

[Hipper]

The dealer in Europe posts on here as Dubravko and is from Croatia.

I bought my RM30M's using my UK dealer via Dubravko. He may be able to help you find somewhere to hear them.

Here is my system:

http://www.audiocircle.com/systems/index.php?systemid=783

I don't know anyone else in the UK who has these speakers. I wasn't able to hear them before I bought them but was recommended VMPS by my dealer after we had tried other makes, and who had heard them at a show. After reading about the RM30's on the VMPS site and being impressed by the care taken in their design and manufacture I decided to take a chance and order them. I have no regrets. In my small room (13' x 8') they sound excellent, particularly enjoyable being the vocals and acoustic guitar (I should add though that the good sound quality is possible in my room because I also employ room treatment (Auralex foam) and room correction (a Behringer digital equalizer) - this would apply to any speakers).

These are sophisticated speakers with a wide range of options when ordering and upgrading and need attention when setting up but the rewards for the listener are more than worth the effort.

[justaudiomagic]

Hipper:
Is that RM30 you have?
I love VMPS design!

Yes I have been talking to Dubravko!
He is very helpfull.
I am thinking about buying a pair of 626 to start out with. I think my room are too small for the RM2, what do you think? - All of you! 

Then your room is smaller than our demoroom 

[Early B.]

I think my room are too small for the RM2, what do you think? - All of you! 

Your 4 x 5 meter room is NOT too small for the RM2's or RM30's.

[justaudiomagic]

Your 4 x 5 meter room is NOT too small for the RM2's or RM30's.

Really? But RM2 uses two 12" woofers. The speakers I have used before with drivers bigger than 8" have always sounded really poor. Bad bass - Booming and no quality

[toobluvr]

toobluvr,

I find your post exceedingly strange and not in line with the facts.

Why don't you read Dr Sardonicus' review earlier this year of the RM30 in positivefeedbackonline (here's a quote: "(the RM30) is a state of the art speaker under $6000") or any of the hundred other raves VMPS has garnered in the audio press since 1980.

Since this is an audio discussion board, it is not possible to talk about the subject matter ad nauseum and again, I find it exceedingly strange for you to say so.

Instead, read the upcoming THE Show/CES reports from Roger Gordon, Dick Olsher, and Harry Pearson, all of whom spent considerable time in our booth.

The VMPS Circle remains by a wide margin the biggest and most active of all those on AC. 

Brian ....

No offense intended, and no need to be so defensive.

Having never heard any VMPS speakers, I have no idea what they sound like.  So I was in no way commenting on their sound.

And I was not commenting on reviews elsewhere.  Notice I said "around these parts".
I was strictly referring to the VMPS buzz witnessed on this board, and the kindof "flavor of the month" status that VMPS enjoyed here for awhile, and the kindof "herd" mentality that existed during that period. 

This is my perception based on what I witnessed here.  Many of the folks that were discussing them back then have apparently moved on.....as evidenced by the noticeable drop in posts on VMPS speakers, both in terms of frequency and quantity.

Perhaps my word choice "ad-nauseum" is what rankles you.  To me this terms means that something has already been discussed extensively, to the point of being tiring.  I understand your affiliation, and interest in promoting and defending your brand, but I am entitled to feel as I do.  I did not slam your product.  I merely stated that tons of stuff has already been posted here about VMPS, and that perhaps the original poster would be well served to use the search tool here as a starting point.

A search on "VMPS" returns 87 pages of results......over 2500 posts!  I would say that is one hell of a starting point!

Maybe I was not clear in my original post, but this is what I meant.  I stand by what I said.  Simply put, (1) the buzz about VMPS speakers that existed previously on AC has died down and does not seem to exist at the same level now, and (2) the search tool will prove a valuable aid for the original poster.  I think these statements are beyond dispute.

Regards,
John

[John Casler]

Hello again!

The room we are playing in is 4 x 5 square meters. I know the 626 is fitted here but the rest? Is it too small?


John Casler:
Please to meet you!
Does VMPS has many customers? I belive the VMPS would be very interesting having playing on a exhibition here in Sweden

Hi Micke,

VMPS is not a large company, but has been around for over 30 years making fine quality speakers, so yes we have many great customers.

The typical VMPS customer is passionate about music, performance and value.

[refmedia]

There was considerable buzz on the harmonic discord site previous to audio circle as well. Not to mention not many AC vendors have been around as long as VMPS and still have products out in the field from more than twenty years go. IMHO VMPS is and will continue to be one of the best home speaker makers in the world and VMPS products are at value level that is second to none. aa

[justaudiomagic]

Hi Micke,

VMPS is not a large company, but has been around for over 30 years making fine quality speakers, so yes we have many great customers.

The typical VMPS customer is passionate about music, performance and value.

As it is right now, we distribute SP-Tech here in Sweden (Just got it). The VMPS are at least as nice as SP-Tech.
These brands are one of the finest on the market today!

[Brian Cheney]

toobluvr,

Thank you for the elaboration on your original post, which on rereading could indeed be interpreted as derogatory due to your use of several negative buzzwords.

VMPS has over 21,000 owners.  That makes us big by "boutique" standards but small by comparison say, to Magnepan with 250,000pr of speakers in the field.  You don't stay in business 30 years by being the flavor of the month.  I have seen many of those come and go. 

It is, however, necessary to innovate and keep up with technical progress.  Most companies do this.  Even the K-Horn, introduced in 1947, has had many iterations of drivers and crossovers, and I think today's version is sonically better than that I first heard in the early 1960's.  For our part the last three years have been momentous.  In late 2005 I filed a US patent application on the Constant Directivity Waveguide, which brings 180 degree dispersion fullrange to planars, which have not enjoyed such performance in the past.  In 2006 we started our line of "Jr" versions which makes our push-pull planar CD performance available at much lower prices, including most recently the RM40. 2007 saw our first open-baffle design (actually a hybrid with sealed midbass mated to a reverse horn for the mids and treble), the RM V60.  As a toob-lover you would have been thrilled with our CES booth a year ago, which featured a pair of the Atmasphere MA2 OTL monoblocks, and which remains for many the finest two channel system ever heard at a Show.

We are now entering a new era with flexible, inexpensive digital crossover, speaker and room correction and woofers adapted for sealed enclosures with their ideal transient response plus FR extension flat to 20Hz, all in a small and beautiful package (the RM30 SDE, $3499pr with the DCX2496 included).  I might point out that I am one of the pioneers of digital speaker correction, having exhibited such a system (in cooperation with the DGX people) at the 1992 CES. That system had ideal measurements (flat FR and phase, low distortion, a visually recognizable square wave output).  However, this is when I learned to my great chagrin that this wonderful technical achievement did not make for a speaker people liked to listen to.  In fact, it sounded undynamic, grainy, bright and two-dimensional, and I never marketed it.  My partners were very upset with me and went on alone, running full-page ads in Audio Magazine trumpeting their achievement.  As far as I can tell, virtually none were sold and DGX went under.

However, we can now offer a family of pre-programmed curves (up to 60) and the user has additional options to suit his own taste and associated equipment, as well as listening position.  Since our bass is not open-baffle, the speaker must not stand mid-room (the optimum spot) and indeed can actually touch a back or side wall without detriment.  The result is much punchier and more extended LF response than the popular OB speakers I have heard, including one at the recent CES.

I think 2008 will be our best year ever.   

[hmen]

I'm listening to RM 40's in a 12'x17' room so no they don't need large rooms.  The sound is outstanding for the money, honestly.  The fit and finish is premium grade furniture quality. 

My RM 40's are in a 14 x 17 room with a 7 foot ceiling. I couldn't be happier.

[toobluvr]

toobluvr,

......As a toob-lover you would have been thrilled with our CES booth a year ago, which featured a pair of the Atmasphere MA2 OTL monoblocks, and which remains for many the finest two channel system ever heard at a Show.
   

Years ago I owned a pair of AtmaSphere M60 Mk2 OTL monos.
Great amps!

[hmen]

I run my RM 40's with a pair of Atma-Sphere M60's.

[John Casler]

Hi Micke,

VMPS is not a large company, but has been around for over 30 years making fine quality speakers, so yes we have many great customers.

The typical VMPS customer is passionate about music, performance and value.

As it is right now, we distribute SP-Tech here in Sweden (Just got it). The VMPS are at least as nice as SP-Tech.
These brands are one of the finest on the market today!

I know Bob, (from SP) and have had the opportunity to hear some of his work.  His products are excellent.

I can't imagine a better "combination" of speaker products for you to carry, since both are excellent, both enjoy a great group of fans, BUT, they each offer a somewhat different presentations that would allow you to cover more of the local speaker market, and accommodate your customers.