I've owned these for about 3-4 years now, I am the second owner and have the original boxes and packaging. The previous owner had let them go COSMETICALLY. They sound fantastic. The "socks" or covers (if you want to call them that) are pretty much useless and there are numerous scratches here and there. I have them on spikes. They have been driven by my Plinius SA-100 and Belles 21A. I don't listen to my music very loud either so they really haven't been pushed hard. Bottom line is that I'm ready for a change. Prior to these I owned Clements RT7's so you could say I'm a TL lover, but it's about time to try something different. So, not sure what these should go for...thinking 650.00. I let my bluebook expire on AudioGon quite a while back so I'm not in touch in that regard any more. Let me know.