bi-wiring confusion

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earwig

bi-wiring confusion
« on: 4 Jan 2008, 01:07 pm »
Whats the differance between a 2way bi-wired and a three way bi wired speaker configuration.  Speaker wire indicating low frequency went to bass woofers only and mids/highs were together ,the wireing says high so the midrange was in the highs part of the speaker wire.This was on my old 3 way speakers.Now with the new two way the bi-wiring is totally differant cause the midrange is going together with the woofer so the midrange has been switched to pass through a totally differant wires the one labled low.If the speaker wire is only labled highs and lows and they were designed optimally for specific frequencies then which cable was supposed to be optimal for the MIDRANGE? The HIGHS or the LOWS cable?
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Re: bi-wiring confusion
« Reply #1 on: 4 Jan 2008, 01:44 pm »
Three way bi-wired sounds like an oxymoron. :o :wink:  Just try both ways.  If the wires are flavored differently, choose the one you like. 

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Re: bi-wiring confusion
« Reply #2 on: 4 Jan 2008, 01:59 pm »
I have trouble trying to figure out the differance between a 2way bi-wired and a three way bi wired speaker configuration. :? Speaker wire indicating low frequency went to bass woofers only and mids/highs were together ,the wireing says high so the midrange was in the highs part of the speaker wire.This was on my old 3 way speakers.Now with the new two way the bi-wiring is totally differant cause the midrange is going together with the woofer so the midrange has been switched to pass through a totally differant wires the one labled low.If the speaker wire is only labled highs and lows and they were designed optimally for specific frequencies then which cable was supposed to be optimal for the MIDRANGE? :scratch:The HIGHS or the LOWS cable?

I believe the labels are for your convienience, I would guess there is no actual "optimization" of either wire for frequency.  If there has been some attempt at "optimization", I'd love to read it.

That said, woofers do require more power (nature of the beast), so the lows do require a larger size wire than the highs.  Other than that, there is probably no difference other than an arbitrary label.  Just make sure you get the polarity correct.

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Re: bi-wiring confusion
« Reply #3 on: 7 Jan 2008, 01:30 pm »
I was pulling your leg when I said three way biwire is an oxymoron.  :wink:  I know exactly what you are talking about.  I bi-amp my RM40s.  I use one cable on the mids and treble (incorporating the passive filter between them) and another cable on the woofers.  Right now I use PS Audio Plus on the woofers and Bolder Nitro on the mid/treble ribbons.  Just try different ones.  I did go with beefy ones on the woofers.  Have you thought about bi-amping?  That will make a big difference. :icon_surprised:

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Re: bi-wiring confusion
« Reply #4 on: 9 Jan 2008, 07:25 pm »
Talk about confusion ,there is a discussion going on about the sound effects or not of bi-wiring that has my head spinning.So you think it makes any difference to bi-wire ?Guess Ill have to figure out what these Einsteins conclusions are. :scratch:

Why the consistent whinging throughout all your threads? :scratch:
Because there is no conscensus? Given your posts to date, I really doubt that you'll rationally figure much of anything out.

If you are looking for a unanimity of opinion, I'd suggest that you'd be much happier at HydrogenAudio.org
That august forum will provide you guidance that might be perfect for your specific metrics.

Ultimately (at least in AudioCircles) you must determine who and what to believe based on what is said and how it correlates with your own experiences and knowledge. If you don't have any of your own experiences and/or knowledge to draw on, I can certainly see why you might regress to the behavior of an 'earwig'
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Earwig may also be used as a verb to mean: "to fill the mind with prejudice by insinuations" or "to attempt to influence by persistent confidential argument or talk".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earwig
Others have also noted your role model.

While I appreciate your descriptive moniker, folks should realize that their well meant efforts to help you will be met with repeated intentional attempts "to fill the mind with prejudice by insinuations"

FWIW,

Occam, as Facilitator of the Lab Circle