[95bcwh]

A friend of mine recently paid visit to their showroom in Miami, Florida. He said this is the most "transparent" speakers he had ever heard, he currently owns a JM-Lab Grand Utopia.

But when I looked at their website, I see nothing but "hype"!
http://www.polymeraudio.com/value.html
I mean how can they sell it at a price below driver cost??

[Wind Chaser]

A friend of mine recently paid visit to their showroom in Miami, Florida.

That showroom... did it happen to be a white van?

[Cacophonix]

Those speakers seem to have impressed the guy at positive feedback enough to fork out $25k

http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue34/polymer_logic.htm

[srb]

$12,000 midrange driver.  Hmmm.....

[Kevin Haskins]

This type of logic kills me.   

"What does all this mean to you? Essentially, it is a rare opportunity for serious audio enthusiasts to own the most satisfying and rewarding pair of loudspeakers that would normally be out of reach for all but the world’s wealthiest audiophiles."

So we have a rare opportunity to pick up a pair of $25K loudspeakers with $12,000 midrange?     

I've got a new speaker guys.... its only $50K per pair.   This is a RARE opportunity.  I'll design and build them for you, make a gold cone, use some Be on the midrange, diamond tweeter and we won't bother with a PCB for the crossover because that sounds "yucky" and I'll source the most expensive parts I can find.

You better get in line though.... I have a 6-month back-log of orders.

Really.... if anyone has $50K to spend on a couple speakers I can design your drivers from scratch with any materials you would like.  We can do a complete Klippel analysis of the drivers, custom design you a basket, and provide you with a complete active design with room measurement & equalization capability.    I'll even throw in a bottle of wine and a cigar or two. 

[2bigears]

  WP drivers,1100 bucks  ----- 30k buck speaker,is this true ????

[95bcwh]

Ha..Kevin, you've floored me again..

But serious, for $25k, the frequency response of this speaker doesn't look too great (ok, granted, frequency response is not everything, but still, it looks like I'll need to add a sub.... )

[griller]

Like PT Barnum said, there's one born every minute 

[Russell Dawkins]

But serious, for $25k, the frequency response of this speaker doesn't look too great (ok, granted, frequency response is not everything, but still, it looks like I'll need to add a sub.... )

Response chart looks pretty dang good to me.

If you're shopping at this altitude, the these could be taken as really fine satellites and would probably even be high passed and a sub added as matter of course. There is a limit to what you can get from two 7's!

In the current market I don't think these look particularly over priced at all and reports so far seems to back up their claims of quality.

[Kevin Haskins]

That is a 10db scale and I agree.... it doesn't look that good down low.   Its one measurement though.... on-axis and it doesn't look like they know how to do a LF measurement and merge it.   I'd not take one measurement too seriously but their lack of ability to show at least a good doctored one is a head scratcher.  It looks like the LF data is done from a gated in-room measurement and the data down low is probably invalid.   

That pair of 7" drivers is 10db down @ 32Hz.    Hardly what I'd consider inspiring performance in terms of bandwidth but as I said, its probably not valid data.   

[Kevin Haskins]

But serious, for $25k, the frequency response of this speaker doesn't look too great (ok, granted, frequency response is not everything, but still, it looks like I'll need to add a sub.... )

If you're shopping at this altitude, the these could be taken as really fine satellites and would probably even be high passed and a sub added as matter of course. There is a limit to what you can get from two 7's!

Yea... I can get 108db @ 30Hz 1M with <5% THD with two 7" drivers.    With four of them (two loudspeakers) and good active management via limiting filters I could do even better and its a little cheaper than his midrange.   

[Sonny]

Ha..Kevin, you've floored me again..

But serious, for $25k, the frequency response of this speaker doesn't look too great (ok, granted, frequency response is not everything, but still, it looks like I'll need to add a sub.... )

Kevin is probably right on their method of measurement of the LF.  If not, I don't know any speaker that costs that much $24K and has a 15db drop from 40hz to 30hz....also, yes the FR response looks good, that's because the scale of the graph...bring it in closer and you'll find that it seems to be linear, but not the "best" and especially at that price.

[Kevin Haskins]

I'm right because at those wavelengths the drivers are operating safely in the non-breakup mode of the drivers.   You would have a nice smooth FR that is only corrupted by the room.    Take a near-field or anechoic measurement and you get a nice smooth FR down low. 

In-room.... that is another matter.

[95bcwh]

I just found on audiogon that one fellow seriously think that this polymer audio speaker beat a pair of Evolution Acoustics MM3 
http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?cspkr&1196194918&read&keyw&zzmm3

(While I'm not entirely impressed by the MM3 - having heard them at RMAF06 - some very experienced audiophiles have raved about them.)

[Ric Schultz]

"Hype". I don't see any on the site.  Obviously, the $12,000 is the retail price of the driver.....and all the other drivers that are listed.....no wholesale driver prices are listed.....now, they don't say that but they cannot sell you a speaker for less than the cost of the parts.....a no brainer.

What I see is confidence and truth being spoken.  What on the website sounds like BS to you?  I don't see BS, I see one of the most incredibly made things I have even seen, using the most expensive parts I have ever seen.  I have little doubt as to the results.....I am sure it is world class and way less expensive than other world class speakers.  Naturally, you will need a super sub to rock the house and you could put a small coupling cap in front of your main amp to roll off the bottom end more and so that the speaker could play closer to 110db....something we all need.....ha ha.

Sorry folks, I have been in this game since the mid 70s and this thing looks great to me.  The Positive
Feedback reviewer had Watt Puppy 7s.....he does not even mention them.....probably a joke in comparison.

I want a pair!!!!  With 4 servo 12" subs per channel....yes!

[Parnelli777]

Just more way overpriced cone and dome hyperbole. And they are compared to (yawn) already well established and over-hyped, and overpriced cone and dome offerings. Yay 

[Kevin Haskins]

I'll take a dozen.